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Fetus = Parazite?
« on: August 23, 2012, 05:55:02 pm »

I know this sound stupid, but....


According to a biology book I was reading.
here's the definition of a parasite: "An animal or plant that lives in or on a host (another animal or hplant); it obtains nourishment from the host without benefiting or killing the host."  RIGHT?


I then realied that : A fetus seems to meet this definition.  :o


Has the book got the definition wrong?
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Re: Fetus = Parazite?
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2012, 06:08:31 pm »
That sounds about right...  ;D


But you could argue that the woman is benefiting by having her DNA being passed on to the next generation. There also may be more benefits, such as the benefits of childbirth, etc. So while it's close, and fetuses do leech of the mother's body, the mother gets something out of it.
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Re: Fetus = Parazite?
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2012, 06:12:54 pm »
Completely wrong, because a parasite is not wanted by the host and comes to the host without the interaction of the host. This is not the case with a baby.
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Re: Fetus = Parazite?
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2012, 06:28:25 pm »

Quote from: namespace7 on August 23, 2012, 06:12:54 pm
Completely wrong, because a parasite is not wanted by the host and comes to the host without the interaction of the host. This is not the case with a baby.


I do know that!


so, the books got the definition wrong then?


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A parasite is an organism that has sustained contact with another organism to the detriment of the host organism.


That one's from wikipedia
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Re: Fetus = Parazite?
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2012, 06:35:07 pm »
Anyway, a fetus is not a parasite. Not even biologically, because it has obligatory dependent relationship with the host. The association with the mother is also temporary and part of a process which originates within the host.

Calling fetus a parasite is like calling a text editor a virus because it consumes system resources.
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Re: Fetus = Parazite?
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2012, 06:50:41 pm »
Quote from: namespace7 on August 23, 2012, 06:12:54 pm
Completely wrong, because a parasite is not wanted by the host and comes to the host without the interaction of the host. This is not the case with a baby.
Ok then, if the baby wasn't planned, then it's classified as Parasite?

IMO babies - unborn or born, are parasites.
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Re: Fetus = Parazite?
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2012, 07:50:58 pm »
Oh, come on, don't be so cruel and heartless.
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Re: Fetus = Parazite?
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2012, 05:07:55 am »
Haahha  :P   OF course man, we DO know that a fetus is a future Human Being.. so it's not really a 'parasite'... but that definition just struck me hard..   ;)
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Re: Fetus = Parazite?
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2012, 05:35:39 am »
A fetus is a future parasite.
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Re: Fetus = Parazite?
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 05:33:39 pm »
Quote from: p_2001 on August 24, 2012, 05:35:39 am
A fetus is a future parasite.


 :o  future?
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Re: Fetus = Parazite?
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2012, 06:03:05 pm »
Oh yes... See the fetus is nurtured by the mother... Loved and taken care of with her own blood.  Then it is delivered and we find an innocent baby... The baby demands nothing other than what's natural and well within its rights... Then as it grows up... It turns into a leech.. Selfish, mean, cheap cruel, harsh, violent and destructive... It takes from the world and keeps taking..never giving anything back.. That is why i said a future parasite.
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Re: Fetus = Parazite?
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2012, 06:22:17 pm »
Quote from: p_2001 on August 24, 2012, 06:03:05 pm
Oh yes... See the fetus is nurtured by the mother... Loved and taken care of with her own blood.  Then it is delivered and we find an innocent baby... The baby demands nothing other than what's natural and well within its rights... Then as it grows up... It turns into a leech.. Selfish, mean, cheap cruel, harsh, violent and destructive... It takes from the world and keeps taking..never giving anything back.. That is why i said a future parasite.


You can't possibly say this holds true for every baby, Right?
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Re: Fetus = Parazite?
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2012, 06:29:05 pm »
Oh this is true. What p_2001 said is... very, very true.
Babies are parasites. No one can say otherwise.
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Re: Fetus = Parazite?
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2012, 07:53:05 pm »
Quote from: z3ro on August 24, 2012, 06:22:17 pm

You can't possibly say this holds true for every baby, Right?
???

i can... Tell me, how many people give more than they take? Out of 7 billion contenders? Name just 7.
That Steve jobs that Americans worship?
Our maybe Einstein?
Buddha? Mahavira... Christ? Who?

While the fetus is not a parasite... The final product is.
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Re: Fetus = Parazite?
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2012, 01:51:01 pm »
I see it as a parasite. The baby does not give back to the mother other than furthering generations. Which is not entirely a good thing, seeing how the world is over populated in the first place.

The baby causes physical harm and damage, back problems, malnutrition, sciatica, organ damage, etc... Plus, the mother can die giving birth because of all the ripping and blood loss.

Even after birth, you have post parden depression, and it leeching further resources. Sever sleep loss, stress levels unheard of, and money and time being sucked from the parents. All this to hopefully seeing the child successful in life. Which is only up to the child, so 18+ years could have been for nothing and you wasted half your life to a lost cause.
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