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OS for Hacking/Programming
« on: September 23, 2012, 06:37:38 am »
So my friend's family was about to throw their old computer and I somehow manage to let them give it to me instead. I'm planning to use it for Programming/Hacking related things so I was wondering what OS can you guys recommend.


P4 3.2ghz
80GB HDD
2GB RAM


Honestly, I've never used linux before :) (OH SH*T YOU'RE A FAGGOT WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE ON OUR FORUM!!) well I am here to learn, and from what I've learnt, learning linux would be greatly beneficial. The thing I wanted to ask is what linux based OS can you evil cruel b*stards can you recommend?


p.s I love you all, no Homo :)
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Re: OS for Hacking/Programming
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2012, 06:42:47 am »
Quote from: HeRo on September 23, 2012, 06:37:38 am
So my friend's family was about to throw their old computer and I somehow manage to let them give it to me instead. I'm planning to use it for Programming/Hacking related things so I was wondering what OS can you guys recommend.


P4 3.2ghz
80GB HDD
2GB RAM


Honestly, I've never used linux before :) (OH SH*T YOU'RE A FAGGOT WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE ON OUR FORUM!!) well I am here to learn, and from what I've learnt, learning linux would be greatly beneficial. The thing I wanted to ask is what linux based OS can you evil cruel b*stards can you recommend?


p.s I love you all, no Homo :)

First off, not our attitude man. As long as your ready to start with it we won't say much (well, i wont. cant speak for them other lamz0rz in here :P)

Also glad im the first post!!! Im gonna say Debian all the way. It'll teach you how to use CLI, it's stable, and a lot of other OS's are derived from it. kubuntu is based on ubuntu is derived from debian, see where this is going? Check it out, and best part about Linux is that if you don't like it, just format the drive and install a different one. With so many distro's you'll eventually find one that suits you :)

Link: http://www.debian.org/
I'd suggest going with the stable distribution btw. Maybe look into turning this box into a server? Make some firewall rules on it? Idk man, but i suggest finding a use for it then trying to do it with Debian. Cheers!
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Re: OS for Hacking/Programming
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2012, 07:24:16 am »
I recommend Arch Linux. Just going through the installation process by following the amazing installation guide for beginners on wiki will teach you a lot.
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Re: OS for Hacking/Programming
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2012, 08:59:30 am »
Quote from: s3my0n on September 23, 2012, 07:24:16 am
I recommend Arch Linux. Just going through the installation process by following the amazing installation guide for beginners on wiki will teach you a lot.
This is hard and painful. I don't know about HeRo, but i got fustrated trying to install Arch and i switched to Ubuntu. Best to avoid it IMHO.
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Re: OS for Hacking/Programming
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2012, 09:05:32 am »
Quote from: s3my0n on September 23, 2012, 07:24:16 am
I recommend Arch Linux. Just going through the installation process by following the amazing installation guide for beginners on wiki will teach you a lot.


Read the thread's title again? He wants an OS for hacking/programing. OP try BackBox , I think your ram can handle it.
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Re: OS for Hacking/Programming
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2012, 09:16:47 am »
Quote from: th3g00n on September 23, 2012, 08:59:30 am
This is hard and painful. I don't know about HeRo, but i got fustrated trying to install Arch and i switched to Ubuntu. Best to avoid it IMHO.

It's not too hard, easier than installing Gentoo for example.

Quote from: Axon on September 23, 2012, 09:05:32 am

Read the thread's title again? He wants an OS for hacking/programing. OP try BackBox , I think your ram can handle it.
If he wants to hack Linux systems he must know how they work. Arch installation provides that learning experience. He'll be more comfortable with using Linux if he installs Arch. That's very important to be able to program/hack to full potential on Linux OS. Part of not being a skiddy is understanding how things work, not just blindly using them like trained monkeys.
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Re: OS for Hacking/Programming
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2012, 09:49:33 am »
Install an OS like arch or slackware. You will learn all about the linux layout and configuration, not just how to run sudo or apt-get.

I thought it was common knowledge that ubuntu was windows xp in disguise?
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Re: OS for Hacking/Programming
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2012, 11:09:33 pm »
Quote from: Daemon on September 23, 2012, 06:42:47 am
First off, not our attitude man. As long as your ready to start with it we won't say much (well, i wont. cant speak for them other lamz0rz in here :P )

Also glad im the first post!!! Im gonna say Debian all the way. It'll teach you how to use CLI, it's stable, and a lot of other OS's are derived from it. kubuntu is based on ubuntu is derived from debian, see where this is going? Check it out, and best part about Linux is that if you don't like it, just format the drive and install a different one. With so many distro's you'll eventually find one that suits you :)

Link: http://www.debian.org/
I'd suggest going with the stable distribution btw. Maybe look into turning this box into a server? Make some firewall rules on it? Idk man, but i suggest finding a use for it then trying to do it with Debian. Cheers!


Haha I know bro, that's why I love it here :)
Thanks for the suggestion I'll look into debian!


Quote from: s3my0n on September 23, 2012, 07:24:16 am
I recommend Arch Linux. Just going through the installation process by following the amazing installation guide for beginners on wiki will teach you a lot.


Quote from: th3g00n on September 23, 2012, 08:59:30 am
This is hard and painful. I don't know about HeRo, but i got fustrated trying to install Arch and i switched to Ubuntu. Best to avoid it IMHO.
Quote from: Axon on September 23, 2012, 09:05:32 am
Read the thread's title again? He wants an OS for hacking/programing. OP try BackBox , I think your ram can handle it.
Quote from: s3my0n on September 23, 2012, 09:16:47 am
It's not too hard, easier than installing Gentoo for example.
If he wants to hack Linux systems he must know how they work. Arch installation provides that learning experience. He'll be more comfortable with using Linux if he installs Arch. That's very important to be able to program/hack to full potential on Linux OS. Part of not being a skiddy is understanding how things work, not just blindly using them like trained monkeys.


Hey guys! Thanks for suggesting Arch Linux, the sound of it alone being hard to install makes me wants to install it hahaha. I think im trying this one first, then try the other Linux Distributors.


@Axon has a point, if I really want to hack Linux system it would be beneficial to know how systems work.


Quote from: 2r on September 23, 2012, 09:49:33 am
Install an OS like arch or slackware. You will learn all about the linux layout and configuration, not just how to run sudo or apt-get.

I thought it was common knowledge that ubuntu was windows xp in disguise?



Hey man! Thanks I'll also look into Slackware
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Re: OS for Hacking/Programming
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2012, 12:07:28 am »
I will third/fourth/who cares, for Arch. I use it for embedded stuff, and is a great learning process.


For hacking specifically, BackTrack is very widely used, but again AFAIK is also Debian based. I think going with Arch, then installing/compiling the tools you need for hacking such as AirCrackNG or OLMHashCat would be best. BackTrack has loads of tools yes, but you really aren't going to use that many. Going with the Arch manifesto as in install only what you need is my preference.


I personally am using Ubuntu as my OS for my desktop at the moment, and will put Arch on the Desktop/Laptop when I get a new one here soon.
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Re: OS for Hacking/Programming
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2012, 01:11:24 am »
Alright then!

My first mission would be installing Arch Linux. I also asked a friend of my who loves linux about Arch and he literally told me to go for ubuntu instead since it can take a whole friggin day just to install Arch. But I don't know, I find it challenging hahaha.


I need to do this! Will let you guys know what will happen.
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Re: OS for Hacking/Programming
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2012, 04:15:47 am »
Quote from: HeRo on September 24, 2012, 01:11:24 am
Alright then!

My first mission would be installing Arch Linux. I also asked a friend of my who loves linux about Arch and he literally told me to go for ubuntu instead since it can take a whole friggin day just to install Arch. But I don't know, I find it challenging hahaha.


I need to do this! Will let you guys know what will happen.

Your "friend" who loves Linux is a pussy for recommending Ubuntu over Arch if he/she knew you where trying to learn something. Yes Ubuntu for end-users who give no shits. Yes Arch for those who want to learn. Your "friend" is coming across as an end-user who doesn't know what they are talking about. Arch install can be less than an hour. I highly doubt a full day would be needed unless you didn't know how to read or are incompetent.
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Re: OS for Hacking/Programming
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2012, 05:14:13 am »
Quote from: Axon on September 23, 2012, 09:05:32 am

Read the thread's title again? He wants an OS for hacking/programing. OP try BackBox , I think your ram can handle it.


OS for hacking/programming I think best distro is BackTrack. But I personally prefer Fedora. You can get more info from their site
http://fedoraproject.org/
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Re: OS for Hacking/Programming
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2012, 07:42:57 am »
Backtrack is very easy to install and use as it is debian based. You can download the iso with either KDE or Gnome. Both are user-friendly

By the way your friend is only repeating hype he read about Arch. I can tell he's never actually tried to install it. If you can read-and perhaps write a little-you shouldn't have many problems and as techb said it shouldn't take long. I'm pretty sure I've done a complete install as well as setting up a graphical environment in maybe twenty minutes tops.
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Re: OS for Hacking/Programming
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2012, 05:27:16 pm »
As stated before, your friend sounds like hes not very knowledgeable with it. Installation should not take more then 20 or 30 minuets, if you follow the documentation. Advanced configuration and making sure you have all your drivers installed correctly should take about an hour. 
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2012, 06:22:00 am »
Update - I somehow managed to install Arch Linux. It took me a while since a had nothing to use as an iso boot loader (ended up using my phone's sd ram card).


Im still working things up, im really havinga hard time since im really new to this, specially command line interface. The next step I need to do know is to intall a GUI. I used grub btw.
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