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what kind of additional media would you like

An evilzone book and you would like to help
10 (33.3%)
An evilzone magazine and you would like to help
8 (26.7%)
An evilzone book (w/o your help)
0 (0%)
An evilzone magazine (w/o your help)
2 (6.7%)
both and you would like to help
9 (30%)
both (w/o your help)
1 (3.3%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: March 02, 2013, 08:51:04 am

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Offline RedBullAddicted

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Evilzone book???
« on: February 26, 2013, 11:39:29 am »
Hi all,

not sure if this is a general discussion or a project discussion. If you think it would fit better somewhere else feel free to move it :)

lately I have been writing on a document and I managed to finish it today. Daemon was so kind to offer his help and do proof-reading and improvements on the texts (as soon as he finished his work I will publish it).
As I started creating a second one today I thought: 'why not make this a community project where everybody can submit articles of any kind'. I would offer to do the organization of the book and for sure write more 'chapters' for it. Evilzone has experts on nearly any IT and security related topic. So why not collect out knowledge in a book? We could also integrate already existing articles (lucid's art of anonymity or daemons basic forensics with wireshark) into it. As not everybody is native engl. I think (haven't asked him but I am sure he will as far as he has time for it) Daemon would maybe be willing to do the text-editing.
We could make an ebook out of it which is available for free and maybe a printed paper-back version for the coming evilzone shop.

I would really like to hear what you guys think about the idea and if you are willing to contribute. Any additional ideas would be highly appreciated.

Cheers,
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2013, 12:02:18 pm »
I had this idea spinning in my head for some time now, would love to see something like that.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2013, 12:23:50 pm »
I think its a great idea. Let me know what i can do for it.

And rba, i want to know more about you book.
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2013, 12:59:42 pm »
Ooohh, fancy fancy, I'm looking forward to it.
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2013, 01:00:30 pm »
Well, with any great project this needs to be discusses more widely. If we just take posts and merge them into a book, it won't really be a book, but rather a collection of different articles... or a reference book.

I will wait for more opinions on this. But you have my vote for yes.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2013, 01:24:38 pm »
Hi,

thx for the feedback and you are right Kulverstukas... this needs some more discussion :) I will post the document I created as soon as Daemon finished his work on it to give a better idea on what I was thinking about. Sure we can't just copy and paste already existing articles, that would mean the book wouldn't have a common theme. It would surely be some kind of a reference book covering different topics and I thought about a structure like this:

Intro:
- Evilzones history
...

Programming
- Basic programming knowledge
- intro into different languages (scripting languages) (every language is a different chapter)
- advanced topics on different languages (scripting languages) (every language is a different chapter)
...

Networking
- Basic about networks and protocols (maybe chapters about different protocols)
- Network discovery and forensics
- Common network attacks explained
...

Exploitation
- Protocols, Applications ...
..

Hardware related topics
- Rasperry Pi, Arduino
...

This is just a quick write up... maybe something into the direction of "Grey Hat Hacking". Would be nice to hear some more thoughts and you are all invited to make suggestions :)

Cheers,
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2013, 01:34:59 pm »
I would like to contribute to the history as my knowledge is lacking in the other topics.

Maybe a SE section too?


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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2013, 01:56:32 pm »
@ RBA. If we follow that structure, readers will probably give up reading becaus of the different subjects in every chapter and it will probably be a huge book. I think we should make 1 book for one subject like, a book for intro and how to learn hacking, another book about anonymity then another book for learning c++ or java or Html and so on.

Heres my ebook structure,

::book about learning hacking::
 intro
 what hacking is
 what are hackers
 what kinds of hackers are there
 discussion on each hacker types
 where to start learning hacking
 short intro to OSs 
intro to linux
 intro to programming
importance on learning how to code
 importance of googling
 short intro to anonymity
 what needs to be learned
 last chapter: just definations of things newbis dont know like what is 0day, what are shells, what is 1337 etc
 end
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2013, 02:15:26 pm »
@rasenove: RBA's structure and idea is better in comparison with yours. What you suggested already exists in many, many forms. And correct me if I'm wrong, but there was a book posted around here just like that.

I think RBA is more or less aiming for the kind of book like "Hacking" by Jon Erickson, which includes security related topics (like passwords, exploitation, SE, some bits of hardware...) as well as coding related topics, covering more of C/C++.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2013, 02:28:26 pm »
@rasenove: RBA's structure and idea is better in comparison with yours. What you suggested already exists in many, many forms. And correct me if I'm wrong, but there was a book posted around here just like that.

I think RBA is more or less aiming for the kind of book like "Hacking" by Jon Erickson, which includes security related topics (like passwords, exploitation, SE, some bits of hardware...) as well as coding related topics, covering more of C/C++.

okay then, fine by me.
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2013, 02:30:27 pm »
@Kulverstukas: you are right :) This is exactly the direction I wanted to take with this idea. I think this could really get awesome. Deque could write about java, you about c, bluechill and Xires about C/C++, You and techb about python, techb about hardware and embedded systems, Phage and relax about web security, morph about Application exploitation and so on. One of our graphic designers (maybe DeepCopy) could create a cover and a design concept (Headlines, text-colors ... ). If all our members contribute an article about the topic they are really good in I am sure it will be an outstanding result. Sorry if I forgot someone.. I just wrote it very quick with the names that came to my mind :)
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2013, 02:46:32 pm »
what hacking is
 what are hackers
 what kinds of hackers are there
 discussion on each hacker types
All that is information is for people who are not allowed to read such book.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2013, 02:46:51 pm by Factionwars »
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2013, 02:51:57 pm »
One of our graphic designers (maybe DeepCopy) could create a cover and a design concept (Headlines, text-colors ... ).

take me in for that, Deepcopy wont be around here anymore(most likely).
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2013, 03:17:04 pm »
@Kulverstukas: you are right :) This is exactly the direction I wanted to take with this idea. I think this could really get awesome. Deque could write about java, you about c, bluechill and Xires about C/C++, You and techb about python, techb about hardware and embedded systems, Phage and relax about web security, morph about Application exploitation and so on. One of our graphic designers (maybe DeepCopy) could create a cover and a design concept (Headlines, text-colors ... ). If all our members contribute an article about the topic they are really good in I am sure it will be an outstanding result. Sorry if I forgot someone.. I just wrote it very quick with the names that came to my mind :)
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2013, 03:22:20 pm »
Well ok. I can contribute articles or you can just take what I already wrote.