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what kind of additional media would you like

An evilzone book and you would like to help
10 (33.3%)
An evilzone magazine and you would like to help
8 (26.7%)
An evilzone book (w/o your help)
0 (0%)
An evilzone magazine (w/o your help)
2 (6.7%)
both and you would like to help
9 (30%)
both (w/o your help)
1 (3.3%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: March 02, 2013, 08:51:04 am

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Offline ande

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2013, 05:49:18 pm »
At first I thought this was an idea about a book about Evilzone, which would be cool as well. But I like the idea. I guess I could help out with some topics.
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2013, 06:21:58 pm »
Thats pretty nice :) I would love to have the book intro about evilzone and the way it developed until it was the place we all have and love today. I guess we should start to create an initial layout for the articles (headline1, headline2, headline3, headline4, code-boxes, define colors and so on). Would be cool if someone can do it in the odt-format as template. Think everybody has openoffice installed anywhere :) If we all use the same template and the same formatting it would be more easy to assemble it in the end and create the list of contents. When we have that everybody who wants to participate can start writing and at the end we will try to put it all together. I know it is annoying but I think we should create a few rules:
1. Everybody can write about everything he/she likes to. (even real world examples - black hat style) as long as every single step is explained in very high detail
2. As far as we have a template everybody who wants to participate needs to use it
3. Don't write anything you are unsure about. If it is part of what you are doing just leave it away. In my opinion it is better to leave something out instead of providing wrong information.

Thats all I can think of at the moment.. feeling a bit tired due to the anesthesia I got from the dentist today :(
Is someone around here good with creating templates in openoffice? If no one wants to do it I will try it tomorrow (have never done it before).
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2013, 06:47:04 pm »
RBA, you sound like you have drifted away a bit. Before anything, we should think of the main theme for the book (or at least for the chapters) and stick to it through the book. I mean don't write in one chapter about coding in python and in the next chapter write about game dev in C++.

It should slowly progress on it's own. Ever wrote long papers for school/college/uni?
Reference books are not very useful... so what several people write as separate things, will have to be joined together at some point to make one themed book.

It's the way I see it, but I might be wrong, as I never wrote a book or took book writing courses :P

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2013, 06:49:47 pm »
What about magazine kinda thing?


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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2013, 07:06:02 pm »
@Kulverstukas: you are right again.. don't know what came over me.. lol. I really thought about it in a too simple way. First I thought everybody just writes about what he/she likes and in the end we see how we get it all together but I agree with you, this will not work. Tomorrow morning I will try to create a 'line up' for the book and post it here. I have never written a book nor have I taken a course, too :) I have written a lot of guides for work and in school but as this is a collaboration thing its not the same. Maybe we have a member with some knowledge about it and can give us some advices :)

@pl0tuS: this would be a possibility too. Lets see what the others think about it. I Think an evilzone magazine that is published every (second) month would be a great idea too. We could have different topics for every issue and a news section where the admins can inform the members about different things. But this would mean we need to have a 'publishing'-team that is constantly working on it. I would take part here but I can't promise to constantly have the time for it.
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2013, 07:23:27 pm »
I woke up this morning and this idea popped into my head and here I am, in a thread about the idea! :P

What about magazine kinda thing?

I think a magazine idea would be very good. A magazine could have each page dedicated to a different topic and it wouldn't be a problem. A book should be dedicated to Evilzone itself, its history and so forth. If the magazine idea ever gets of the ground, I'd love to be apart of the 'publishing'-team :D

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2013, 07:38:07 pm »
I like this idea a lot, I can do formatting and stuff if needed

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2013, 08:22:14 pm »
Well then, we have 2 things to consider - a dedicated evilzone book or a magazine with different articles put together.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2013, 08:25:07 pm »
Well then, we have 2 things to consider - a dedicated evilzone book or a magazine with different articles put together.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2013, 09:27:44 pm »
Well then, we have 2 things to consider - a dedicated evilzone book or a magazine with different articles put together.

As Snayler's images pointed out, why don't we have both? A one time Evilzone book and a monthly or every 2 weeks magazine.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2013, 10:10:33 pm »
As Snayler's images pointed out, why don't we have both? A one time Evilzone book and a monthly or every 2 weeks magazine.
i agree with you. I nearly voted for the book but thats a year project. The magazine could come out every month or 2 weeks then the news section would make sense and maybe evilshop products advertisement (if approved) could have space.
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2013, 10:43:07 pm »
This sounds like a really good idea. But as stated by several this is something we really would have to think about and discuss. Of course when it comes from the entire community and "maybe" someday get's around on other forums and websites, it will have to have a certain level of quality. This book will reflect the skills the different members have on EZ and of course we can't have newbies post some of their stuff in the book.

This book would also be great for teaching and learning. A book where hackers and programmers have collected their knowledge into one piece. As stated we have a lot of members with knowledge in many different fields. Let's take me as an example I have worked with website construction and website security and I have knowledge about that. On the other hand I have just started on my Python programming and I could learn a lot of a book like that.

To some point I agree with not making a section about "where to start with hacking" but if you do decide to make one do not hesitate to contact me and I would gladly contribute with something.

As one last thing, you can count me in where ever I can help. I can't promise that I will have  time all the day since my exams are starting soon but I can set off a few hours a day to do something. This will be a big project and it will take a lot of time and it should not be completed in a month or two, it will simply not be good enough then.
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2013, 12:01:36 am »

As one last thing, you can count me in where ever I can help. I can't promise that I will have  time all the day since my exams are starting soon but I can set off a few hours a day to do something. This will be a big project and it will take a lot of time and it should not be completed in a month or two, it will simply not be good enough then.


This. I hold the exact same view, and whatever you need me to do I am glad to help.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2013, 02:38:30 am »
I think it's an awesome idea. :D
If you would like someone with strong writing skills to edit, I would love to help.


edit: for both the magazine and the book
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2013, 08:01:58 am »
At first I thought this was an idea about a book about Evilzone,

I'd read that. Let's make a movie  :P . Who do you want to play you ande?
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