Poll

what kind of additional media would you like

An evilzone book and you would like to help
10 (33.3%)
An evilzone magazine and you would like to help
8 (26.7%)
An evilzone book (w/o your help)
0 (0%)
An evilzone magazine (w/o your help)
2 (6.7%)
both and you would like to help
9 (30%)
both (w/o your help)
1 (3.3%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: March 02, 2013, 08:51:04 am

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Offline RedBullAddicted

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2013, 08:54:34 am »
I added a poll to this thread which is available until the 2nd of march. Please vote for what ever you prefer and afterwards we can decide :) Thanks for all your feedback and the great ideas.
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2013, 09:06:16 am »
I voted for the magazin only.

Reason:
I think you are very motivated now, but motivation usually doesn't stay that long. I've seen so many people (including myself) starting big projects, but there are only a few who actually have the patience and motivation to pull it through. So make one thing first. See if you can make one or two magazines and if you can keep doing it. That already requires a lot dedication. Additionally managing a whole book would be too much.

Or do a book and not the magazine. Just do one thing at a time.
But I figured the successrate for a magazine is higher, because it doesn't have to have so much content. Even if there is only one issue in the end, it will be useful for EZ.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2013, 09:25:38 am »
I see it's easy to blow this out of proportion for you guys. It is always easier said than done - "let's make a book, let's also make a magazine every month, lets also make a newspaper article every week...".
Making a book is one thing. But do you people really think there would be enough great content posted every 2 months to fill up a magazine?

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2013, 09:43:19 am »
I see it's easy to blow this out of proportion for you guys. It is always easier said than done - "let's make a book, let's also make a magazine every month, lets also make a newspaper article every week...".
Making a book is one thing. But do you people really think there would be enough great content posted every 2 months to fill up a magazine?
I think its a good idea but Kulver is right, for how long can we/you release a magzine with quite a great amount of content.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2013, 09:45:47 am »
Then make it every 6 months, or make it on occasion. I don't care. Just do it.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2013, 09:47:20 am »
btw, I voted for both and would love to contribute in it. :)
« Last Edit: February 27, 2013, 09:49:03 am by parad0x »

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2013, 10:36:20 am »
@Deque: you are right about motivation. Thats why a project like that needs a lot of people who contribute to it. If someone is not able to work on it due to a lack of motivation or free time there should always be one or more as backup to keep it running. But I really agree with you that we should focus at one point after another. I added the poll just to get an idea what the community really wants. If its the case that most of the member would like to make both I would only participate in one of them with content but I would try to help to organize a team for the second one.

@Kulverstukas: I understand your argument and I really get the point. For the magazine I agree with Deque's argument. We are not going to sell it and we don't need to have a fixed release date. If one issue takes 4 month to be published it wouldn't be a big deal. If we really start working on it I absolutely have no clue how it will proceed but I think it is worth a try. Do we have anything to lose if we never finish it? At least it would be a great learning experience, maybe we motivate someone to write content who normally wouldn't and as this can only work when we work together as a team it would be a plus for the social cohesion of the community (at least for those who work together).
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2013, 12:38:41 pm »
Well i voted wrong. I will of course help with both projects if one of them were made. But I agree, only one of the projects should be made at a time. It will be to much work and will kill us if we have to write both a magazine and a book.


I reallly like the idea about the magazine but they have a tend to be forgotten fairly fast. In my view the book will stick together for a longer time. On the other hand the book will be a pretty large project to start. It do of course rely on how much content we are going to put into it. I have seen and read many great e-books at about 50-60 or less pages, but you most of the e-books will be longer.


I see both good and bad sides with both of the projects and at the moment I can't really make a decision. But if you needs my help I am willing to help if my help is needed.
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2013, 01:41:57 pm »
I voted both, but it doesn't mean both would be done at the same time, I just think they're both great ideas and wouldn't like to see one of them go to waste. I think we should start with the book and after it's done, start developing the magazine.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2013, 04:49:47 pm »
I voted for the zine. I think it is more appropiate for an online community such as EZ. Something that all of us can contribute to, to be released every X months.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2013, 06:22:19 pm »
Even though I consider both ideas to be good and that both should be done, I voted for helping with the magazine only as it will give us a start and its something more people can help out with.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2013, 06:40:36 pm »
Like the idea of an magazine to start with to see how easy/hard it will be to fill it up with useful and interesting content. to do one every 2 weeks is a bit to enthusiastic I think, but yeah once every 3 months should be possible if enough ppl are willing to help. If the magazine does well a book can be started along the side, then you should have some more experience of the whole process.
I could help out with either the magazine or the book if you want (writing ofc) but i would need someone to review my stuff because my native language is not English..


I wish you good luck :)

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2013, 06:56:41 pm »
I'd love book, but as noob as I am now, i'm willing to offer translation help. Everything else someone can do better

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #43 on: February 27, 2013, 11:10:16 pm »
May be you can add a new section called Room 32B, me and m0rph can write articles about Anal inspection and prostate examination.... jk

Great idea +1
« Last Edit: February 27, 2013, 11:11:05 pm by Axon »

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2013, 12:00:45 am »
I'm up for the Evilzine. I would contribute to the best of my abilities.
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