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what kind of additional media would you like

An evilzone book and you would like to help
10 (33.3%)
An evilzone magazine and you would like to help
8 (26.7%)
An evilzone book (w/o your help)
0 (0%)
An evilzone magazine (w/o your help)
2 (6.7%)
both and you would like to help
9 (30%)
both (w/o your help)
1 (3.3%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: March 02, 2013, 08:51:04 am

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Offline ande

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2013, 12:04:37 am »
If we go for a magazine thingy, we gotta have like a vital news section with the top hacking and security related stores this [insert time between releases here]. Honestly, I dont think releasing a magazine every month would be that big of a task. A page or two with EZ related news, a page or two with security news as mentioned above, a page or two with trololol(or as I like to call it, not-so-serious articles), a few user articles and some advertisement for EZ products perhaps. And you got yourself a small magazine.
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2013, 06:49:42 am »
If phrack can do an ezine on their longevity, an EZine is completly doable. I voted for both, but after further review, zine is the most logical choice ATM.

A book would be epic and not out of the question, but a zine in my honest reguard is the best collectivley we can do.
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2013, 10:31:28 am »
I think the EZine would actually be pretty easy to pull off, there are plenty of intelligent, knowledgeable people on here to write articles and such, it doesn't need to be super long. The book idea is cool too, but on a totally different level and should be a totally separate project to be done at a later date. Anyway, I am down to help out with whatever!

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #48 on: February 28, 2013, 10:37:21 am »
I'll go with Ande, there should be EZine with some pages of EZ related news, some pages of security news, some containing info(rating and review) of new hacking tools(and some old also), some EZ releases, something on OS, AVs, microprocessors, hacking related, some tech stuff and all that.
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #49 on: February 28, 2013, 12:49:32 pm »
Hi,

the poll is not over yet but it already seems like we made a decision. The arguments from ande, techb, zesh and relax are pretty good.
We should really start with an e-zine and see how it proceeds and develops. This would help us to gain experience in that field and it would definitely show us
if we are capable of. I will try to make a real job of it and share some ideas:

What do we need?
- editorial staff (3-5 ppl)
main tasks: coordination, read and score submitted articles, collecting content and assemble it to a real magazine
(I would love to take part here if its ok for you )
- graphic design staff (2-3 ppl)
main tasks: creating templates for the articles, visual design (cover, articles and everything)
- lecturer (2-3 ppl)
main tasks: proof-reading, correcting articles, turn them into good engl. and make them fun to read :)
(I would nominate Daemon and wabi for this as far as they want to and have time for it)

and of course a lot of writers. Everybody is allowed to submit articles about what ever they want to write about.I would pm some members and ask them to write about a specific topic too. Maybe we could make an shared email-account for the editorial staff where the articles can be submitted. The editorial staff should consist out of well-known and trusted ppl.
If it really happens that a submitted article is published on another forum and the poster claims that it is his work I would stop the project immediately.
Guess non of our members would do something like that but I had the feeling that it is important to say it :)
As I have no clue about the amount of submitted articles I have no clue about what we do with articles we could not place into the magazine too. Guess we should keep them (as far as the author agrees with it) and see if it is possible to use it in another issue.

Content (took a lot of already posted ideas - thx to all of you)

- Evilzone related news (new member of the month?.. lol, progress information about the new ircd, forum and stuff like that)
- Maybe an interview with one of our admins (as far as they want to do it). If the project succeeds and we are running out of admins for interviews we could go on with Moderators, vips ...
- Security news (vulnerability of the month or what ever, vulnerabilities that got patched and so on)
- one or two not-so-serious articles (thanks for that term, ande) (Room 32B)
- one or two coding related articles
- one or two creative art articles (yes hanorotu.. this would be your section and of course for our graphic artists)
- one or two 'security' related articles
- Tool of the month (short description and a demo about the usage)
- some kind of contest (lottery) where you can win an evilzone shirt/mug (as far as they exist)
This would mean we would need a staff for creating these contests too

For the first issue I would love to have a really long, long time member of EZ to write an article about the history of EZ. I think most of our members are interested in that as much as I am. Maybe it could contain a short section about Room 32B.

Another thing would be the forum reputation of the writers from published articles. Many ppl here really care about their karma. There have been a lot of threads about that topic lately where members talk about it. They always claim that they are not interested in it but tbh.. would you write about it if you wouldn't be interested? :) I think the editorial staff should take care of that as well.. a good article should bring some positive karma for the author.

Ok, thats all for now. Please tell me what you think about it. Am I missing something important? As for the staff members.. please send me a pm about what you want to do. Don't want this thread to explode. (hopefully there are so many members who want to participate.. lol)

thx to all of you for the ideas and the positive feedback :)
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #50 on: February 28, 2013, 03:31:01 pm »
Yeah, the ezine seems the most likely solution now. I would contribute greatly to it and I agree on the contents.

About article submission, I would like to suggest that members post tutorials/articles on EZ as usual but if they want the article to appear in the ezine they could send us a message. Or we could ask the author for his permission if the article is awesome enough...

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #51 on: February 28, 2013, 05:39:09 pm »
(...) EZine (...)
(...) EZine (...)
(...) EZine (...)
Seems like we've got a name for the magazine. I like it.
- lecturer (2-3 ppl)
main tasks: proof-reading, correcting articles, turn them into good engl. and make them fun to read :)
I know I'm not a VIP or trusted member (after all I've been here for a relatively short time), but I would like to offer my help with this one, if it's OK with you all. My English may not be perfect, but I consider it is good enough for a job like this.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #52 on: February 28, 2013, 07:54:39 pm »
Just send me a PM with details and I'd be happy to help with any proofreading. :)

As far as the book goes, we can always take the best articles from several issues and put them into the book along with some new content when we decide to do it.

Also, perhaps the EZ history could be a series done over several issues? each one covering a different time period. Just an idea :P
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #53 on: February 28, 2013, 08:01:29 pm »
English is my first language so I would be more then happy to proof read anything. I can organize articles, make them look pretty through formatting, whatever you need me to do really.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #54 on: March 01, 2013, 04:46:00 am »
If all the sudden i become a good programmer ill write some stuff :) Good idea guys, this should be awesome. One thing I'd like to add is not to flood the admins with requests to add in your articles if your are not absolutely sure of its quality. In that case, i think you should just normally post it on EZ. I can help with any part you would like me to, but im still heavily busy and studying, so i'm not quite going to commit as of yet, but whenever i have time i will attempt to contribute. Still working on my website, really busy :P

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #55 on: March 01, 2013, 09:19:33 am »
So then I think we should make a separate board for the EZine and start collecting members and content.

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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #56 on: March 01, 2013, 11:01:21 am »
Sounds like a great idea instead of keep spamming this thread. This will also make it easier for the members involved to get an idea about which members are involved and what are the assignments who needs to be written.
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #57 on: March 01, 2013, 12:18:43 pm »
Hi,

thats really a great idea :) If you could create the board I would start to create some content for it. I think we can close this thread afterwards.

Again thanks for all the feedback and contribution. Now its time to get serious :)
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Re: Evilzone book???
« Reply #58 on: March 01, 2013, 12:24:40 pm »
The new board should be used only for ezine related things. All other content should be placed in other forums where the content fit.

I'll make a sub-board now, as a test.

EDIT: done. http://evilzone.org/ezine/
Board is a child of eBooks, not visible to guests. RBA is a local mod in there :P
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