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: Website logo and layout idea...
: Uriah November 16, 2012, 06:25:05 AM
Hey guys. You may have seen an earlier post by me, where I was asking for help on my new website idea. Well, if anyone would like to join, you still may. Right now, our team is me, Zesh, and Gr33n.
Anyway, the first part of our plan was to create separate themes/logos for the website independently, then share and choose. This is my contribution to that area of the project. We thought it may be helpful to post on Evilzone first, because we would like some feed back. Zesh should be making a similar post soon enough...
Ok, so, I am not much of an artist, and know nothing of GIMP or web design, but I still gave it a shot. The proposed template is by me, but the logo was my idea drawn by a good friend.
The final logo drawing will most likely look like phoenix 2A. This is just a rough draft.
Feedback so far: Two circles below phoenix don't look like the infinity symbol, and they are too small. Phoenix 3's wings are too rounded.
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: relax November 16, 2012, 09:05:58 AM
like the idea of the phenix, the the two burning balls in the bottom i dont like, maybe to big or should not be there at all, donno
and ether way it can end up however because in my opinion you need to work more on the first draft, like size, colors, text, effects ect ect without that you cant really make an oppinion

the bottom "layout" is that for the page?
ether way its a no no imo

just my quick 2 cents
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: Uriah November 16, 2012, 09:23:22 AM
like the idea of the phenix, the the two burning balls in the bottom i dont like, maybe to big or should not be there at all, donno
and ether way it can end up however because in my opinion you need to work more on the first draft, like size, colors, text, effects ect ect without that you cant really make an oppinion

the bottom "layout" is that for the page?
ether way its a no no imo

just my quick 2 cents
Thank you very much Relax. Yeah the balls at the feet of the phoenix are supposed to be the infinity symbol lol. On the next draft, I'll have my friend make that more clear. It is also just a pencil draft, there will of course be more "effects" once the digitalized logo in GIMP is created. There will be some text as well, and etc.
As far as the web layout, lol, I had thought so. :D I'm am so new to GIMP. I'm proud of myself for the effort though, but the layout will probably be left in the hands of Zesh. At least I contributed the logo... I will post a newer draft soon.
Thank you for  the feed back.
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: relax November 16, 2012, 09:47:48 AM
when i dont have any ideas for a layout for a webpage (and i almost never have)
ill browse template sites look at templates, until a have 5-15 witch have something i like
it can be small things like image layout, menus, colors, footer, backgroud, font type ect ect
then ill take small pieces from all of them and build me own
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: Uriah November 17, 2012, 06:09:22 AM
when i dont have any ideas for a layout for a webpage (and i almost never have)
ill browse template sites look at templates, until a have 5-15 witch have something i like
it can be small things like image layout, menus, colors, footer, backgroud, font type ect ect
then ill take small pieces from all of them and build me own
Great idea, I'll try that out. I'll also change the logo and show you guys around tomorrow.
Thanks for your help.
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: Uriah November 18, 2012, 12:26:30 AM
Here's some updates on the logo, guys. Please tell me what you think and give more feed back. I tried to take what was said into consideration.
The idea is a cross of the immortality of the phoenix and the infinity symbol.

Remember that it is just a paper sketch, the digital version will look much cleaner.
Enjoy! (Number 6 is the latest... I'm thinking of going with that one.)
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: wabi November 18, 2012, 01:02:52 AM
Looks awesome!
New infinity symbol is much better.
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: Uriah November 18, 2012, 01:36:52 AM
Looks awesome!
New infinity symbol is much better.
:D Thanks a lot man. Do you have any suggestions as well?
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: wabi November 18, 2012, 04:02:01 AM
I don't really know anything about web or graphic design. And I really like the way it looks so I don't know what I could suggest.
Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
What kind of website is this for?
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: Uriah November 18, 2012, 04:04:14 AM
I don't really know anything about web or graphic design. And I really like the way it looks so I don't know what I could suggest.
Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
What kind of website is this for?
http://evilzone.org/projects-and-discussion/making-a-website/msg35466/#msg35466
Thread I made a bit ago has some info. on it. The actual explanation of the site is a few posts down.
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: wabi November 18, 2012, 04:27:31 AM
With that purpose in mind I think it's an appropriate emblem.

Sounds like an awesome site! I wish I had any kind of skill that could help lol. I can write. If you need that kind of help let me know.
Good luck, I really like your idea.
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: relax November 18, 2012, 04:35:25 AM
looks better :)
hard for me to imagine the finnished result but im eager to see it.

if you need any help with coding or other stuff send me a PM
would be fun to work/help on some project with others :)
(http://evilzone.org/data:image/gif,GIF89a%12%00%12%00%B3%00%00%FF%FF%FF%F7%F7%EF%CC%CC%CC%BD%BE%BD%99%99%99ZYZRUR%00%00%00%FE%01%02%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%00%00!%F9%04%04%14%00%FF%00%2C%00%00%00%00%12%00%12%00%00%04X0%C8I%2B%1D8%EB%3D%E4%00%60(%8A%85%17%0AG*%8C%40%19%7C%00J%08%C4%B1%92%26z%C76%FE%02%07%C2%89v%F0%7Dz%C3b%C8u%14%82V5%23o%A7%13%19L%BCY-%25%7D%A6l%DF%D0%F5%C7%02%85%5B%D82%90%CBT%87%D8i7%88Y%A8%DB%EFx%8B%DE%12%01%00%3B)
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: jeremy78 November 18, 2012, 04:43:49 AM
the logo looks awesome.
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: Uriah November 18, 2012, 04:57:52 AM
Thanks lots guys! Now all we need is a web template... I'm wondering when Zesh will post :D
I will definitely PM you relax.
Oh my bad Wabi, for some reason i missed your post the first time. Thank you so much and I would love your help :D
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: Uriah November 18, 2012, 09:48:18 AM
Double post is for update. A pretty big one. Tell me what you guys think, do you like the grain extract or multiply pic more? Or do you hate both :D
I know I suck at GIMP, I'm a first time user, but I did my best and I'm proud of it. Tried to add i some color... all suggestions and criticisms are welcomed.
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: wabi November 18, 2012, 09:51:02 PM
I like the color pallet and the blurring around the edges. The only thing I would suggest is maybe filling it in with some color too. Unless it's on a black background then it would look cool with the contrast.
Maybe see if your friend can do a version in ink with solid lines? Maybe that would be easier to work with in GIMP? Also, if you wanted to make it look perfectly symmetrical maybe you could select half of it and mirror it somehow?
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: Uriah November 18, 2012, 09:54:19 PM
I like the color pallet and the blurring around the edges. The only thing I would suggest is maybe filling it in with some color too. Unless it's on a black background then it would look cool with the contrast.
Maybe see if your friend can do a version in ink with solid lines? Maybe that would be easier to work with in GIMP? Also, if you wanted to make it look perfectly symmetrical maybe you could select half of it and mirror it somehow?
Great ideas and thanks for the input. I will definitely do what you said but there's a small problem. Because the image is originally drawn, when I try to fill it in it's too patchy... I may have to have that drawn on paper as well, but i'm not sure if my friend  has proper materials.
I will try the black background now, sounds like a great idea.
Thanks!
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: wabi November 18, 2012, 11:42:55 PM
Not that great of a job but it should make it easier to work with at least.
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: Uriah November 18, 2012, 11:48:46 PM
Not that great of a job but it should make it easier to work with at least.
Thanks, I will start working on this one...it will definitely make things easier! Less smudges and all.
Here is one with a darker back ground as you had said... do you want it even darker? I was thinking any darker may be too much.
I will probably start editing the one you made in a sec, any suggestions before I do? If you want, we can even change the whole color scheme :D
Tell me what you think is best. Thanks again. Awesome new avatar, by the way.
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: wabi November 18, 2012, 11:58:51 PM
What I had in mind was a black background with the colors still just as bright. You'd probably have to change the color of the infinity symbol to get that to work though. But if you don't like it then stick with the white, it looks great. I like the color scheme personally but  it wouldn't hurt to play around, try some things and see what you like. :)
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: Uriah November 19, 2012, 12:05:08 AM
What I had in mind was a black background with the colors still just as bright. You'd probably have to change the color of the infinity symbol to get that to work though. But if you don't like it then stick with the white, it looks great. I like the color scheme personally but  it wouldn't hurt to play around, try some things and see what you like. :)
Oh, I see what you're saying! That sounds like a great idea. But I added a gradient layer, and it merged with the logo layer, so I would have to start all over again, lol. Maybe when I have some more time. Right now I'm working on the one you sent, following what you just said. It's really high contrast and will probably look very different from the one's you guys have seen so far. We'll see.
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: Uriah November 19, 2012, 01:02:03 AM
Double post for update:
Please compare these three, guys, and tell me what you think.(Also adding in a 4th one so you guys can see where I started from.) One is using Wabi's high contrast idea. Keep in mind that, once again, I suck at GIMP and these will not be the final version. Zesh, who's actually good at GIMP will probably create the final version, but I haven't seen him on for a while...
But I do hope these get the point across. So, which is best?
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: wabi November 19, 2012, 02:00:12 AM
The blue one is my favorite. And I really like the feathering on the last one, really makes it look like it's  on fire.
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: Uriah November 19, 2012, 02:03:35 AM
The blue one is my favorite. And I really like the feathering on the last one, really makes it look like it's  on fire.
Thanks! So maybe use the same technique on the blue one? I didn't know how to do it back then... I'm learning fast.
Also, as many opinions as possible would be nice guys, I really want the logo to be appealing.
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: jeremy78 November 19, 2012, 02:53:32 AM
I think the blue one looks really good too.
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: Uriah November 19, 2012, 03:46:21 AM
I think the blue one looks really good too.
So two for blue, and 1 for the contrast one. It's funny because I was just messing around on the blue one, I almost didn't post it.
My favorite is actually the dark one, the first of the three i posted.
Thanks for the input, keep it up guys!
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: iTpHo3NiX November 19, 2012, 05:50:25 AM
I fucked around in photoshop a bit, let me know what you think.

Here's the PSD:
http://upload.evilzone.org/download.php?id=4685179&type=rar
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: Uriah November 19, 2012, 06:04:54 AM
I fucked around in photoshop a bit, let me know what you think.

Here's the PSD:
http://upload.evilzone.org/download.php?id=4685179&type=rar (http://upload.evilzone.org/download.php?id=4685179&type=rar)
Thanks Skid! Does this mean your helping as well :D? Lol, jk you don't have too.
I like your image a lot, this is what i mean by someone who actually knows the program. This is literally my first time EVER making art... I'm surprised I'm even doing this well. :D
What does everyone else think of his phoenix, in comparison with the others so far, so we can decide?
I think your's looks more like a logo than just a piece of random art, which is good. I'm leaning towards yours personally.
Keep it up guys! Thanks!
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: iTpHo3NiX November 19, 2012, 06:12:52 AM
Well im pretty limited in my ability with photoshop but I know a few things. I darkend the outline made a few different layers, filled in layers with a diamond gradient fill, and then duplicated the layer and applied a motion blur filter. Idk what much to do with it... If you give me a name and a website design I could possibly work up a better mockup of a logo.

As far as helping with the project, if I see a place that I can share some input or ideas I'll let you know. Nothing official though ;-)
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: Uriah November 19, 2012, 06:19:09 AM
Well im pretty limited in my ability with photoshop but I know a few things. I darkend the outline made a few different layers, filled in layers with a diamond gradient fill, and then duplicated the layer and applied a motion blur filter. Idk what much to do with it... If you give me a name and a website design I could possibly work up a better mockup of a logo.

As far as helping with the project, if I see a place that I can share some input or ideas I'll let you know. Nothing official though ;-)
Still working on the official web template, but as far as info about the site and the name:
http://evilzone.org/projects-and-discussion/making-a-website/msg35466/#msg35466 (http://evilzone.org/projects-and-discussion/making-a-website/msg35466/#msg35466)
Actual explanation is a few posts down. The name will either be Infinity or Infiniti.
I really, really appreciate everyone's help so far. You guys are the best.
EDIT: Heres a nice screenshot of all the phoenix's so far.
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: iTpHo3NiX November 19, 2012, 07:49:22 AM
Ok I'll be back when I got something better rendered. Now as far as the site, what kind of color scheme are we working with? That way I can tie it into the site better... I have though of some modifications that will look nice as well as add the text. I'm just not sure what size to do it. Possibly I'll do different layouts.

Anyways I'll be back ;)
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: Uriah November 19, 2012, 07:58:25 AM
Ok I'll be back when I got something better rendered. Now as far as the site, what kind of color scheme are we working with? That way I can tie it into the site better... I have though of some modifications that will look nice as well as add the text. I'm just not sure what size to do it. Possibly I'll do different layouts.

Anyways I'll be back ;)
Thanks, Skid.
Zesh proposed a black and white theme, which i can see as working. Actually, he was supposed to be posting around the same time as me, but I guess he hasn't been on for a few days. So, as far as that theme goes, we are awaiting his vision.
One other possible theme would be a fire like type of thing, because of the phoenix logo. Blue flames if we choose the blue phoenix.
But, for the most part, i think i'll leave the idea of the site design up to you guys, because I have no experience in web design, and am unable to really visualize it right now.
So, feel free to post anything, and then we can give our opinions to it and optimize it, like we've been doing with the logo.
As far as doing different layouts, that sounds great!
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: iTpHo3NiX November 19, 2012, 08:45:27 AM
Ok here's the latest design I whipped up for you. I have the PSD, let me know if you want it.

As far as the color changes, its just a matter of ctrl+u and a slider xD

Also here is the text logo ;)

(http://i50.tinypic.com/288qohl.png)
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: Uriah November 19, 2012, 08:54:35 AM
... Dude. I'm speechless. Thank you so much! :D
Yeah it looks great, professional looking too! Is everyone else on the team in agreement with this style? If so, we've got ourselves a keeper. :D
Thanks skid.
I was thinking recently that as long as the logo concept is consistent, we can alter the colors and stuff however much we want.
Now all we need is a web template, and I think the coding aspect will be relatively quick, since there's like 7 people who are going to do it. i'll pay for the hosting.
 :D Cheers!
+1
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: relax November 19, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
wow lot of suggestions, i like them.
so lets see
Phoenix Concept 6 blue.png (https://evilzone.org/creative-arts/website-logo-and-layout-idea/?action=dlattach;attach=1376) like the glowing blue
PhoenixTrace contrast.jpg (https://evilzone.org/creative-arts/website-logo-and-layout-idea/?action=dlattach;attach=1380) like the smudges
 phoenix.png (https://evilzone.org/creative-arts/website-logo-and-layout-idea/?action=dlattach;attach=1384) like the sharpness
infintiylogo.png (https://evilzone.org/creative-arts/website-logo-and-layout-idea/?action=dlattach;attach=1388) fire maybe a bit big, and font type is to common

i played around a little (no design expert) heres a draft

(http://s7.postimage.org/8fkxmismj/phoenix.png)

edit: more
(http://s11.postimage.org/jhg3cso1f/phoenix2.jpg)
(http://s9.postimage.org/jaycqe8a7/phoenix3.jpg)
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: Uriah November 19, 2012, 10:45:40 PM
Awesome job Relax +1!
The middle one is my favorite, I love that one. Like many other companies, I think we can have one logo for the site, but if we were to make shirts or something, we could use different styles. Maybe even swap em around on the site too. Too many awesome logos to just throw away, lol.
But keep em coming guys, loving this. It's also important that we start bringing in some ideas for web templates.
Edit: Maybe outline the phoenix in a darker color, and add an i to the end of infiniti.
Can you also provide an image download? Thanks Relax. Awesome job overall.