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Community => General discussion => : WirelessDesert April 16, 2013, 10:42:08 AM
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So, today, approximately 4hours in the marathon, two explosives
of C-4 type exploded in the crowd.
The ballistics had some sort of steel junk around it, also steel pellets. This caused many to lose legs and get damages matching damage one is expected to find in the battlefield. 3 deaths so far, and many(over a hundred) damaged.
What are your thoughts on this attack?
Also, don't know what I'm talking about? Simply search "Boston attack" on Google.
::Update1::
The explosives were proven to be homemade, low speed and low grade (source:bc).
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This is insane, why would anyone act like that against a marathon? This is terroism and should be treated like that, I surely hope that the U.S. Government catches the guy(s) who's behind this.
Btw, have anyone claimed responsibility for the attack?
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One hell of a firework show!
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False flag.
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Too obvious false flag. Amazingly CNN found the secret identities of the assailants and claimed they are right-wing extremists (yeah k, fuck you too). Also amazingly, about 1 hour after the attack, the Boston PD arrested a suspect that was wearing a kufyia...
C'mon U.S.A. get a grip.
Oh, and on a relative off topic note, but not really: there are certain sources who claim that a few days ago the U.S. stock market started to collapse. In case this turns out to be fact... well... take a hint why dontcha.
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Crazy fucking shit.. wtf. Couldnt they do it to some fucking lazy ass couch potaatoes instead? These people are trying to do very positive things with their running stuff.. fucking motherfuckers that did this.
And:
Thats what cardio does to you, GET SLAMMING THOSE WEIGHHTTTSSS.
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So, today, approximately 4hours in the marathon, two explosives of C-4 type exploded in the crowd.
The ballistics had some sort of steel junk around it, also steel pellets. This caused many to lose legs and get damages matching damage one is expected to find in the battlefield. 3 deaths so far, and many(over a hundred) damaged.
What are your thoughts on this attack?
Also, don't know what I'm talking about? Simply search "Boston attack" on Google.
Oi. They were not C4. They were confirmed to be homemade explosives of a low speed, low grade. Ie. something like ammonium nitrate. Second, there was not a suspect arrested an hour after the attack. 3rd only 2 people have died, one an 8 year old child, and there have been 132 wounded. CNN is absolutely wrong. None of it was political from either the Democratic nor Republican party. As our President has stated, it is not the time for politics, it is the time for coming together and finding out who is responsible and carrying out justice.
If you really think it's a conspiracy theory..... read this:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/04/15/why_the_conspiracy_theorists_will_have_a_tough_time_with_boston.html?wpsrc=upworthy (http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/04/15/why_the_conspiracy_theorists_will_have_a_tough_time_with_boston.html?wpsrc=upworthy)
Get your facts straight before declaring it is an attack staged by our own government. First off, ask yourself what advantage there would be from it? Think. To answer my own question, there *isn't*.
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Get your facts straight before declaring it is an attack staged by our own government. First off, ask yourself what advantage there would be from it?
Creating a new imaginary enemy, just like Alqeida. So people like you will be spoonfed everything the media tells you. As long as there is an imiginary enemy, the war on terrorism will continue.
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This is not a conspiracy theory. At the same time of the attack the local departments (fire, police) were in a drill for a bomb explosion in the vicinity of the marathon. Eye witnesses claim that before the explosions the voice over the speakers announced for people to be calm because there is a drill going on and nothing to worry about.
Don't you see something weird here? Also there are certain people who claim that the stock market of the US has begun collapsing a few days prior to this. Now I can't claim this as fact because there is no actual proof for this yet, but in case it shapes up to be true, it might be the cause.
bluechill, unless you are prepared to accept that your government is screwing you more royally than most other gvts. in the world (except totalitarian regimes) you will never be able to grasp the connections between these details.
As for the advantage? Simple. They pin it on somebody, then counter retaliate in order to gain some particular advantage or material possession. This is how the U.S.A. works recently, and it's been proven and over-proven that the U.S.G. is a war-mongering institution.
I think before pointing at our facts, you should be checking yours. Most people outside the U.S. are in a consensus on what goes on there. It's not for nothing that most of the world dislikes or even hates the U.S.A. It might be the harsh, but it's true.
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Dirty bombs against civilians... I don't know who launched the attack nor I really care. All I see is war for power, politics acting like children and money getting in the way of mankind's evolution. My faith in mankind is almost lost...
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My thoughts of this attack is that worse probably happened a week ago in the Middle East.
It's just because it's in USA that this gets so much media attention. Because I mean, all Americans are innocent.
I don't really care who did this, if it was the governement, some terrorist group, or even a single (mad) person, I just want to know why.
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My thoughts of this attack is that worse probably happened a week ago in the Middle East.
It's just because it's in USA that this gets so much media attention. Because I mean, all Americans are innocent.
I don't really care who did this, if it was the governement, some terrorist group, or even a single (mad) person, I just want to know why.
Not even a week. Probably worse happened today in the Middle East. In the past 2 hours even...
You know what Jim Jefferies said: "God is very particular about where you're born. About 80% of Americans believe in God, so they get to go to heaven. In Canada it's more like 60%, in Britain 27%... So all Americans get to go to heaven, the majority of Canadians also get to go, about 1/3rd of the British. And do you know why? YOU WERE BORN IN THE RIGHT COUNTRY! Because the world has existed for millions of years, and the USA for like 300 years, and THAT'S when God decided to pick a team."
It's a bit more about religion rather than the topic at hand, but the conclusion can be applied in a very similar fashion because the system of operation is almost identical. Religion is war and war is religion. All the wars of the past 3000 years (a.k.a. all of the wars humanity has ever seen) had religious motives underlying. Sure, call it terrorism, but when you draw the line it's the same "MY GOD CAN BEAT UP YOUR GOD" bullshit.
Fuck that, and fuck this planet. We deserve to get wiped out.
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Fuck that, and fuck this planet. We deserve to get wiped out.
Just ask North Korea?
I've never heard of Jim Jefferies, I really like him now.
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My thoughts of this attack is that worse probably happened a week ago in the Middle East.
It's just because it's in USA that this gets so much media attention. Because I mean, all Americans are innocent.
You're right. The supposedly "war on terrorism" is nothing more than war for power, and it has been taking lives of civilians for years.
I don't really care who did this, if it was the governement, some terrorist group, or even a single (mad) person, I just want to know why.
I don't even care about why would someone orchestrate an attack like this. IMHO there's no reasonable argument to justify this and whoever did it is a pure psychopath. Same applies to the USA government for what they've been doing for the last years (sorry if this hurts anyone's feelings, it's just my opinion).
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This is not a conspiracy theory. At the same time of the attack the local departments (fire, police) were in a drill for a bomb explosion in the vicinity of the marathon. Eye witnesses claim that before the explosions the voice over the speakers announced for people to be calm because there is a drill going on and nothing to worry about.
Don't you see something weird here? Also there are certain people who claim that the stock market of the US has begun collapsing a few days prior to this. Now I can't claim this as fact because there is no actual proof for this yet, but in case it shapes up to be true, it might be the cause.
bluechill, unless you are prepared to accept that your government is screwing you more royally than most other gvts. in the world (except totalitarian regimes) you will never be able to grasp the connections between these details.
As for the advantage? Simple. They pin it on somebody, then counter retaliate in order to gain some particular advantage or material possession. This is how the U.S.A. works recently, and it's been proven and over-proven that the U.S.G. is a war-mongering institution.
I think before pointing at our facts, you should be checking yours. Most people outside the U.S. are in a consensus on what goes on there. It's not for nothing that most of the world dislikes or even hates the U.S.A. It might be the harsh, but it's true.
Um. You might want to look at the video of the marathon? There was never *any* voice over the loud speakers saying that. Look at the video and then come back and tell me there was that voice. You believe too much of what's on the media and not enough of what video evidence points to. Also, having known people who live in Boston and other major cities, they always do tests like this around major events because it's supposed to make it less likely people do this. The reason it will make it less likely? Because if the person planting the bomb sees a bomb squad nearby they're a lot less likely to plant the bomb. It makes *sense* to do. It is a precautionary measure and if a bomb *does* go off, they can respond *faster* ideally (or if one is found) and prevent less people from being hurt but that doesn't always happen like we see here.
Also I know the US does like to retaliate but they don't do it at the expense of their people. Lets look at all our wars since WWII. Korean War, US didn't want communism spreading so they got into the fight. Same thing for Vietnam although that kind of got a back lash because of how long it took and what the US government fooled the people into believing, that wars were quick (kind of like Iraq!). Desert Storm, US wanted Oil and Iraq invaded Kuwait so we retaliated. Iraq: "They had a nuke and chemical weapons!" "Oh wait, they didn't." Afganistan: "Osama Bin Laden is there! Invade the entire country!" "Oh wait he was in Pakistan." "Raid Pakistan without informing Pakistani officials!"
I know my government likes to go to war but not all of us do. I know certain parts of the US do but, some of us, don't like people having AR 15s or the massacres or thinking violence is the end-all solution. I know I don't.
No democratic government or super power is stupid enough to hurt it's own people to gain a short term or long term advantage because, at least in a democratic government, they'll be voted out of office and they lost the advantage anyways. I hate conspiracy theories like this people they're almost always *wrong*. 9/11? Wasn't a false flag in that the US government didn't plan a strike on our own country..... Newtown? Not a false flag. Aurora? not a false flag. Now this, the Boston Marathon? Not a false flag either.
btw: Without any evidence that's the same thing as me claiming the subway bombings in England a while ago were false flags. We know they weren't but I can make a claim that they were. My point is, just wait for the facts to sort themselves out. We already know a lot of things being spread around aren't true so just wait and don't make conjecture based on "evidence" which can be disproved by video.
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I agree with Bluechill. Dont always believe everything your gov't tells you, but still dont get too outrageous, and look at the facts. Conspiracy theories without basis only cause problems, its like slightly intellectual religion.
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@bluechill, you're free to believe what you want naturally. I know what I read and see and I know which of my sources to trust and which not to. If you have such faith in your government very well, but I fear you're in for a disappointment.
I hate conspiracy theories like this people they're almost always *wrong*. 9/11? Wasn't a false flag in that the US government didn't plan a strike on our own country.....
Really now... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0R8b3MuFxk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0R8b3MuFxk) That's part 1/8. Same channel has the rest.
@Uriah, I only operate based on logic and proof. After the explosions, a reporter asked in the press conference with this relative large gentleman (I'm not sure who he was but I assume he works for Boston PD): "Why were people told to stay calm before the explosions?". The reply from that particular individual was so far away from the question that I initially thought he misheard. But I don't find it likely because the guy was asking quite loudly and in an imposing fashion.
However I'm now going to withdraw from this discussion because I don't like arguing with walls. Just because facts aren't spoon-fed to people doesn't mean they aren't true. We'll see who was right at the conclusion of all this. But before anything else, I would like to say that the blame will either be with somebody from the Middle East, or it will be linked to activists. Called it.
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@bluechill, you're free to believe what you want naturally. I know what I read and see and I know which of my sources to trust and which not to. If you have such faith in your government very well, but I fear you're in for a disappointment.
Really now... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0R8b3MuFxk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0R8b3MuFxk) That's part 1/8. Same channel has the rest.
Considering I was there at the attack and remember seeing the pentagon hit by a plane.....You're free to believe what you want but I'll trust my own eyes over a stupid youtube video.
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Just don't give any shits and your life will be much happier. Really, this doesn't concern me as I am not an american, so why should I make ludicrous conspiracy theories about it...?
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I should have explained myself further.
When I say its like a slightly intellectual religion, I mean in the fact that, once having reached the intellectual point of understanding that not everything people tell you is true, you take that as an absolute, and thus form conspiracy theories almost no matter what. Because your caught up in your paradigm, anyone who disagrees appears to be a fool, who believes everything he hears. Absolutes = no good. Always be open, even if you feel your holding the logical position.
Im not saying that your wrong, but what I am saying is that accusing people based off of hunches, preconceived notions, and coincidence only causes problems. By all means, suggest the possibility of conspiracy, but don't hold to it as your absolute truth without hard evidence.
I understand that you work of off reason, but the example you gave was not hard evidence, by any means. Feel free to get suspicious, but if someone else isn't as well, dont take that for ignorance.
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inb4 it gets blamed on North Korea and then we go to war.
I have no opinion on this, I am thinking it was staged but who the hell knows anymore.
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1)Kill a bunch of whites
2)blame somebody you have grudge on
3)bomb their ass
4)invade them
5)loot their resources
6)????
7)Profit.
I feel equally sad for those participants and other victims , but well this is a nasty world we live in
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Guys see this, i have confirmed that the time is before today, when this information is right shit is fucked
(http://s18.postimg.org/4oeml13rt/Screen_Shot_20813_04_16_at_9_37_31_PM.png)
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Guys see this, i have confirmed that the time is before today, when this information is right shit is fucked
(http://s18.postimg.org/4oeml13rt/Screen_Shot_20813_04_16_at_9_37_31_PM.png)
This is not new . They'll always do it ....always !
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Guys see this, i have confirmed that the time is before today, when this information is right shit is fucked
As it seems they are hunting down a 19yo teenager, of Chechen Nationality. His brother, 26yo, got killed hours ago from confronts with the authorities. Both are suspects of the Boston bombings. I'm still waiting to see references to the reloading powder and the NRA book, but I don't think it will happen. Let's wait and see...
The suspect at large, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, is 19, was born in Kyrgyzstan and has a Massachusetts driver's license, officials told NBC News. The dead suspect was identified as Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, born in Russia, NBC added.
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As it seems they are hunting down a 19yo teenager, of Chechen Nationality. His brother, 26yo, got killed hours ago from confronts with the authorities. Both are suspects of the Boston bombings. I'm still waiting to see references to the reloading powder and the NRA book, but I don't think it will happen. Let's wait and see...
They've turned Boston into a War Zone and there are 20 humvees and buses there to deal with these two guys. And they shot and killed an MIT police officer and stole his cruiser.... I really don't think this was staged.....
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They've turned Boston into a War Zone and there are 20 humvees and buses there to deal with these two guys. And they shot and killed an MIT police officer and stole his cruiser.... I really don't think this was staged.....
A lot of stuff is staged dude , I am not surprised by this one . Remember those CIA agents who are known to have been there at this scene ?
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This is not a conspiracy theory. At the same time of the attack the local departments (fire, police) were in a drill for a bomb explosion in the vicinity of the marathon. Eye witnesses claim that before the explosions the voice over the speakers announced for people to be calm because there is a drill going on and nothing to worry about.
That's interesting actually. That's exactly the same kind of thing that happened with 9/11. They claimed they were having a drill to test how authorities would respond to plane highjacking.
That way when planes started going off course flight control employees wouldn't set off alarms.
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These all are well planned staged dramas . Bankers and businessmen rule america and they can go to 'any' extent for the sake of their pleasure . 9/11 was staged too.If it was not staged than the U.S airforce would've destroyed the aeroplanes since 300 casualties are better than 3500 casualties . Kill 3000 americans and create hate in their hearts for billions of muslims around the globe (note that arab countries are rich in mineral resources coal,crude oil , gold etc) then just bomb the hell out of other countries and invade them .In all of this there are signs for a keen observer !
Then the staged the school shooting because they were paranoid about americans fighting for their rights(note that guns were easily available to americans) , with that in hands it was easy to rob the americans off their rights to possess guns . Congrats , now the government can fuck you up in the ass and you can't do a ratshit about it .
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First I would like to state that I'm not American.
@pllaybuoy, just stop. NO government, not even the U.S. would do such things against their own people. And why didn't they shoot the airplanes down? First, when did they really discover that the airplanes were hijacked, probably too late to do something about it? Also, if you shoot down an airplaine over a big city like New York you will probably kill just as many people if not more.
Yes the U.S. government lies for you all the time, but no one except for brain damaged terroists would do such things.
(I'm sorry for my use of words, but I just had to make this case clear).
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(http://s18.postimg.org/4oeml13rt/Screen_Shot_20813_04_16_at_9_37_31_PM.png)
American hypocrisy at it best, nothing new here. They've done it many times.
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First I would like to state that I'm not American.
@pllaybuoy, just stop. NO government, not even the U.S. would do such things against their own people. And why didn't they shoot the airplanes down? First, when did they really discover that the airplanes were hijacked, probably too late to do something about it? Also, if you shoot down an airplaine over a big city like New York you will probably kill just as many people if not more.
Yes the U.S. government lies for you all the time, but no one except for brain damaged terroists would do such things.
(I'm sorry for my use of words, but I just had to make this case clear).
LMAO ! those heartless bastards don't care about 'anybody' , let alone americans.
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People with such prejudices are impossible to speak with. You got my answer and you do truly hate America (you are probably going to deny but I have read your posts and they do all have the same view on America). I'm out, I'm not wasting more time on discussing this with you!
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People with such prejudices are impossible to speak with. You got my answer and you do truly hate America (you are probably going to deny but I have read your posts and they do all have the same view on America). I'm out, I'm not wasting more time on discussing this with you!
Yes, I do! I am not going to deny this . I don't hate americans , but america ? Hell I do . For violation of human rights , for killing innocent people , for bossing around on everybody . Yup count me as a hater then . I hate america and I don't have to deny it . I hate every damn barbaric cult , I hate everybody that spills innocent human blood for the sake of his greed and taste . I don't hate any civilians or citizen of america because I am a human and they are humans too .
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People with such prejudices are impossible to speak with. You got my answer and you do truly hate America (you are probably going to deny but I have read your posts and they do all have the same view on America). I'm out, I'm not wasting more time on discussing this with you!
Don't blame him or anyone who shares the same opinion, treat the symptoms not the disease. The politics of the country is why some people around the world despise Americans. If the USA keeps this hypocritical foreign policy when dealing with other countries then expect global protest against the USA similar to the Arab spring.
I repeat again. My post is against the politics of the USA not the people of the USA.
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That's what those fuckers get for exercising! This is why I stay indoors and eat large amounts of bad for me food.
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U.S airforce would've destroyed the aeroplanes
with all due respect, man, the USAF didn't really have privileges to shoot down the planes without approval from the upper command. And they wouldn't have detected the aircraft since civilian jets use transponders rather than radar. Also the job of monitering the civilian aircraft in US airspace, is up to the civilian ATC's. They got the message earlier than normal through a controller who telephoned the USAF as soon as he didn't get a response from the hijacked aircraft. Even though they got the message, the order to scramble fighter jets, intercept the planes and force them(yes airforces have these tactics) to land. If it wasn't for the ATC, the F-15's wouldn't have even reached the runway.
UPDATE: The 2nd suspect has been arrested.
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Enough. Be respectful and stay on topic. If you don't I will lock any further threads.