130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?

[PsychoRebellious]

All because of some zealots religious fanatics. I'm ashamed to admit that I was raised in the same religion, I left it behind long ago. Poll question: Do you think religion should be banned? Or practicing it should be banned? No offense to Christians, muslims or Jews, hindus here. Just a thought.
 6 men dressed as military men rushed in a school and opened fire. This kid was my friend's cousin. Poor soul. I can only imagine the torments his family must be going through
https://www.facebook.com/mubeen.shah28?fref=ts

[0E 800]

Its not the flock of sheep that is the issue here, its the shepherd.

If anything, weak minded people that cannot think for themselves should be banned.

Romans 14:8 For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord’s.

[PsychoRebellious]

Its not the flock of sheep that is the issue here, its the shepherd.

If anything, weak minded people that cannot think for themselves should be banned.

Romans 14:8 For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord’s.

Exactly my thought. From how you eat to which hole you fuck your wife in and which hand you use to wipe your ass, religion interferes in all these matters. If one needs god's guidance to realize that raping a 6 year old is wrong then maybe , maybe it's not god that he needs but common sense

[proxx]

Banning religion would throw us 100 years into the future.
Money is next on the list.

[d4rkcat]

This is crazy ignorant.
Your logic is as follows:
crazy person/people who interpret religion x in x way did something crazy, therefore ban all religions.
Its just fear making you think in such an illogical way.
Do you happen to know how many religious people DIDN'T commit atrocities today?
It's far too easy to focus on the negative and start a fear-frenzy chain reaction witch hunt.
This aside, this is an awful incident and my condolences to the families of the victims.

[PsychoRebellious]

This is crazy ignorant.
Your logic is as follows:
crazy person/people who interpret religion x in x way did something crazy, therefore ban all religions.
Its just fear making you think in such an illogical way.
Do you happen to know how many religious people DIDN'T commit atrocities today?
It's far too easy to focus on the negative and start a fear-frenzy chain reaction witch hunt.
This aside, this is an awful incident and my condolences to the families of the victims.

They didn't commit those atrocities because they weren't zealots of their respective religion and there's a reason they call themselves 'statue of misdeeds' and sinful. Let us take for example the Muslims of the world who want to be like their prophet Mohammad who according to them and their ultimately wise deity is the most righteous of all men.
Do they know that mohammad forcefully married a woman(Safiya) after killing her husband,  brother, and father the same evening or that he married a 6 year old(aisha) and consummated her.
Do the christians know how many philosophers and great minds their ancestors have killed and torched and hanged on crosses for having a non-biblical view of the universe which hampered the progress of astronomy for a long time?
Do the hindus know that their ancestors would torch their women down all alive with their male family representatives? I'm afraid I can't think of one such religion the doctrine and scripture of which doesn't promote fanaticism and the roots of which doesn't reside in bigotry, sexism and sadism and if theirs is the right god then indeed mankind's battle is against him, we better prepare an army or a hulk

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[d4rkcat]

OK, i'm going to assume you are very upset and I will leave it at that.
You cannot possibly know what every religious person knows or doesn't know, it is irrelevant.
Live and let live.
If it doesn't affect your life, then don't try to impose your will on other people.
Or you are just as bad as all these evil religious people coming to convert everyone to the "dark side".
Religious extremists and Atheists are one and the same.
Just my 2c.
i'm out.

[PsychoRebellious]

OK, i'm going to assume you are very upset and I will leave it at that.
You cannot possibly know what every religious person knows or doesn't know, it is irrelevant.
Live and let live.
If it doesn't affect your life, then don't try to impose your will on other people.
Or you are just as bad as all these evil religious people coming to convert everyone to the "dark side".
Religious extremists and Atheists are one and the same.
Just my 2c.
i'm out.

I wonder if having hundred and twenty little children of my family being massacred is counted as affecting my life

[shadowwolf]

OK, i'm going to assume you are very upset and I will leave it at that.
You cannot possibly know what every religious person knows or doesn't know, it is irrelevant.
Live and let live.
If it doesn't affect your life, then don't try to impose your will on other people.
Or you are just as bad as all these evil religious people coming to convert everyone to the "dark side".
Religious extremists and Atheists are one and the same.
Just my 2c.
i'm out.

First, while not all religions are problematic there are enough big ones that if you believe in the wrong thing or have the wrong sexual orientation you can, depending on where you live, be put in jail or even killed. Big religions do affect the lives of everyone. If it wasn't for Christianity most people wouldn't give a shit about sexual orientation.
Also, most religions constantly try to impose their will on others. If it wasn't for the amount of death, destruction, and hate religion has spawned most atheists would probably be ok with it.

We don't have to ban all religion, we just have to kill off the extremists and get rid of the most hateful religions.

[Matriplex]

The moment people stop following ancient 'law' codes is the moment we advance to the next golden age.

[Polyphony]

Note: I sympathize with you OP, and I hope you and your family/community are doing well in this time of mourning.  Please forgive anybody here who may post something off-putting and offensive.

So we are posting on a board that embraces the "hacker philosophy", freedom of information, and personal liberty, yet some of you guys want to ban religion?  So tomorrow religion is made illegal... now what?  You can't stop it.  It'd be about as effective as saying "going over the speed limit is banned".  You can't control what people do when they are alone, and (I know this wasn't in the US, but...) every time something bad happens in the US, like sandy hook, the boston bombing, or 911, there is a firm knee-jerk reaction to pass laws to "ban" whatever was done.  Often actually making it through due to media hype and controversial TV-titled bullshit advertising and a lack of the checks and balances being used to their full potential. 

Think 911, what happened when the american people wanted terrorism banned?  The war on terror.  And how the fuck has that worked for us?  Terribly. 

You can't ban religion because of its negative impact, you can't ban religion because of its ambiguity, and you can't ban religion because it infringes on the most basic of human rights.  It allows legality and bureaucracy to invade the minds of its citizens, the sunday mornings and times of meditation of its citizens, as well as the personal liberties of its citizens even more than already legally allowed. (cough gay marriage, prohibition of drugs, excessive taxation... cough)

[shadowwolf]

Note: I sympathize with you OP, and I hope you and your family/community are doing well in this time of mourning.  Please forgive anybody here who may post something off-putting and offensive.

So we are posting on a board that embraces the "hacker philosophy", freedom of information, and personal liberty, yet some of you guys want to ban religion?  So tomorrow religion is made illegal... now what?  You can't stop it.  It'd be about as effective as saying "going over the speed limit is banned".  You can't control what people do when they are alone, and (I know this wasn't in the US, but...) every time something bad happens in the US, like sandy hook, the boston bombing, or 911, there is a firm knee-jerk reaction to pass laws to "ban" whatever was done.  Often actually making it through due to media hype and controversial TV-titled bullshit advertising and a lack of the checks and balances being used to their full potential. 

Think 911, what happened when the american people wanted terrorism banned?  The war on terror.  And how the fuck has that worked for us?  Terribly. 

You can't ban religion because of its negative impact, you can't ban religion because of its ambiguity, and you can't ban religion because it infringes on the most basic of human rights.  It allows legality and bureaucracy to invade the minds of its citizens, the sunday mornings and times of meditation of its citizens, as well as the personal liberties of its citizens even more than already legally allowed. (cough gay marriage, prohibition of drugs, excessive taxation... cough)

Nukes and bullets can solve almost any problem, if enough force is applied and you're ok with genocide being an option.

[proxx]

Note: I sympathize with you OP, and I hope you and your family/community are doing well in this time of mourning.  Please forgive anybody here who may post something off-putting and offensive.


You can't ban religion because of its negative impact, you can't ban religion because of its ambiguity, and you can't ban religion because it infringes on the most basic of human rights.  It allows legality and bureaucracy to invade the minds of its citizens, the sunday mornings and times of meditation of its citizens, as well as the personal liberties of its citizens even more than already legally allowed. (cough gay marriage, prohibition of drugs, excessive taxation... cough)

Perhaps the word 'ban' is one of a negative kind, I agree.
And please don't throw in the 911 shit again, sigh.
Leaving behind religion and embrace the future would open doors we could have never even dream about.
Banning would be the wrong term for its negative load and indication of supression.

We have been bashing in each others heads for 1000's of years over power,religion and money(same as power).
Even in this day and age .... we never stopped doing that, we are but an inch away from caveman.
No religion, money or borders is the future, question is if we are ready, I think not.

[Polyphony]

Nukes and bullets can solve almost any problem, if enough force is applied and you're ok with genocide being an option.

But in reality, treating nukes, shooting people, and genocide as if they aren't problems themselves (not to mention the exact problem OP's community is having trouble with and the reason behind the post itself) is blatant hypocrisy and pretty fucking sorry.