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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2014, 03:38:30 pm »
Do you really think that people were living in peace before Islam And then Islam comes and makes people kill each other?
Do you really think that any religion call for such violence, Terrorism and intolerance will have all this follower around the world and getting more every day?
a Muslim in Islam is The person who doesn't  hurt other people either with his tongue like in  “Insulting and cursing “ or with his hand like in “any kind of physical abuse”.
And you come and call these Ruthless who kills People like that  a Muslims ?I don't think so
The Muslims in the world is the most one who suffer from there Cruelty every day, look how many of them die every day in Iraq in suicide bomb or on a raids of ISIS , and have a look at what is happening in Libya or Yemen and at the end the rest get palmed for what they do.
And you call the man who used to order his army before any war they had to fight "don't kill a child or a woman or an old man or a sick , don't cut down a tree or demolish a hermitage or a building"
you call him a killer or worse, read about his biography and then judge him.

I understand your anger and
sympathize with you but please don't let your anger blind you and make you judge islam or more than a billion Muslim around the world like that.
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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2014, 03:59:28 pm »
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24:2 Strike the adulteress and the adulterer one hundred times. Do not let compassion for them keep you from carrying out God’s law—if you believe in God and the Last Day—and ensure that a group of believers witnesses the punishment. (MAS Abdel Haleem, The Quran, New York: Oxford UP, 2004)

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5:38 Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done—a deterrent from God: God is almighty and wise. 39 But if anyone repents after his wrongdoing and makes amends, God will accept his repentance: God is most forgiving and merciful. (Haleem)

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.   And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.  But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"  (Translation is from the Noble Quran)  The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries.  In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did).

To cite but a few...

Islam is as messed up a religion as any other (or most).

No offence. I don't have anything against Muslims or Islam cause in my country we all live peacfully.
Most muslims are GOOD people. But cut the crap about islam being a peaceful religion, it is NOT.

The good muslims just transcend old scriptures and live peaceful lives.

With any religious group, the actual problem lies in the so-called GROUP BIAS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-group_favoritism

On a last note:
There are no verses in the Quran about Me wanting anyone to hold hostages in a chocolate shop in Sydney, you terrorist fucks.

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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2014, 04:13:54 pm »
z3ro:
Fitnah does not mean disbelief. It means spreading mischief, and it covers terrorism.
Az-Zalimun does not mean the polytheists and wrong doers. It refers to oppressors.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2014, 04:15:42 pm by Pak_Track »

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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2014, 04:53:10 pm »
z3ro:
Fitnah does not mean disbelief. It means spreading mischief, and it covers terrorism.
Az-Zalimun does not mean the polytheists and wrong doers. It refers to oppressors.

Oh. My bad then. (This is what happens when you copy paste from the web)
Anyway, I was only attempting to quote some examples.

PS: I think the meaning of the word 'Fitnah' is not as simple as that :/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitna_%28word%29
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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2014, 05:01:06 pm »
Well you see, Arabic is a language, with roots.
Fitnah, in this context, means spreaders of mischief, discord, etc. All the qualities of the TTP :P

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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2014, 05:11:18 pm »
Bin Qasim was a peaceful guy? I will suggest you to read hi memoir or biography by any author but  a Mufti or a Mullah. Remember that until the lions find their own historian, history will always term the Hunter hero.

Did you know Islam started by Fitnah when this prophet started breaking idols in a 'Mandir'. Who was it, moses or somebody? That was Fitnah! Do you know what that worship place today is called? "Kaaba"! The Hijra Aswad, the famous black stone that muslims kiss today is remnant of Kaaba's past when it had idols of Hudreds and thousands of gods a reason why ISIS says it wants to destroy kaaba for idol worshipping!
Secondly so false yet so evil never has been a doctrine like this ! The Ancient arab god
"Al illat", was the mood god whose sign was the MOON/cresecent. Give me onne reason why Islam's sign is crescent and it's god's called ALLAH derived from ALILLAT.
Do you know about the arrogance and ignorance of Mohammad's companion omer who went to library Alexandria on Rome ivasion and torched it down because Quran wasn't there. Do you know that Alexandria was the library with the vastest collection that has ever been! Centuries of history and Science of human civilization left by this ignorant and illiterate man, OMER which muslims call a saint today!
The misogyny of Mohammad himself when he killed Safia's husband, father, and brother on invasion and consummated her the SAME night and now muslims call SAFIAH lucky? What kind of buttfucking women in this cocksucking world would warm their bed with a man who kill their husband, brother and father THE SAME EVENING?! Do you see the stupidity of your beliefs?
Do you know mohammad consummated a 9 year old and there are quotes from SHAHI BUKHARI where talks about Aisha telling how the old prophet would masturbate by rubbing his cock against her thigh! You can call ejaculating on 6 year old MERCY I call it pedophilia!
Do you still want me to tell what the fuck is wrong with this religion of peace?! I can go on and on and ON! from lashing people FOR MAKING LOVE to slicing their throats for DRAWING an image of mohammad! DO YOU CALL THIS PEACE?!
DO YOU BLOODY KNOW OF MY CULTURE?? I am a PakhtuN! Do you knnow our culture PAKHTUNWALI? We were known to be the most peaceful BUT ISLAM POISONED IT when QAIS fucking afghan embraced islam! Our ancient ATTAN- the khattak dance- the sword dance that our men and women would do is now BANNED because of Islam and you know our women? You klnow our society? They have to veil a Shuttle fucking cock veil to hide even their eyelashes! Yes thats what Islam has done! Want me to go on more?!

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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2014, 05:24:56 pm »
Damn it man.
If you disagree with Islam, don't follow it. There's no point arguing any further, and you can't change what you think is the past.

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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2014, 05:32:01 pm »
Damn it man.
If you disagree with Islam, don't follow it. There's no point arguing any further, and you can't change what you think is the past.

I'll see if you can do what you are preaching here when you are (I hope I hope never) holding your brothers in your arms

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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2014, 05:34:57 pm »
Look man. Crazy people exist everywhere. The TTP's interpretation of Islam is wrong, whatever way you look at it. That's a fact. No point blaming Islam for it. Banning religion will never solve anything, it will just aggravate people, more. And talking about banning religion in a country based on Islamic Ideology is a bit, stupid in my opinion.

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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2014, 05:49:41 pm »
Look man. Crazy people exist everywhere. The TTP's interpretation of Islam is wrong, whatever way you look at it. That's a fact. No point blaming Islam for it. Banning religion will never solve anything, it will just aggravate people, more. And talking about banning religion in a country based on Islamic Ideology is a bit, stupid in my opinion.
A nation built on an islamic ideology the idea of which was laid forwarded by a pork eating, wine drinking, never bowing, pet dogs owning, liberal conman lawyer :) Well to each his own.

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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2014, 05:58:44 pm »
I am with and against religion. It helps us understand better but also It don't let people merry from other religion. Thats the biggest shit I see here in India.. :/ Also, in PAK their own country once supported Jihadi's and now these Jihadi's are killing their own people and their own kids. Such a loser people they are. They even want Kashmir in India, they want revenge from their own countrymen, they want everybody to think like them and convert other into islam. Well, FUCK those morons.. _|_
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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2014, 06:04:06 pm »
I am with and against religion. It helps us understand better but also It don't let people merry from other religion. Thats the biggest shit I see here in India.. :/ Also, in PAK their own country once supported Jihadi's and now these Jihadi's are killing their own people and their own kids. Such a loser people they are. They even want Kashmir in India, they want revenge from their own countrymen, they want everybody to think like them and convert other into islam. Well, FUCK those morons.. _|_
Taliban were created by West, the Americans when the soviet invaded Afghanistan and the Americans feared their strong hold in Middle East. They then harvested 'Mujahideen' which was back then aided by Pakistani ISI in return of billions of $$ in name of aid. Later on they were used by Pakistan against India in Kargil and then in Kashmir freedom movement. Taliban is just a plan gone wrong. The US lost control over them and then started the war against next gen. Taliban. Sadly 70% Taliban are Pakhtuns *poker face*
After even a decade the US have lost and feared the wrath of afghans because they are warriors from birth and defenders of their lands from Alexender to Gengish-Changez and then Brits then Soviets. They know how to use the mountains better than the American soldiers ever will.

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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2014, 06:07:37 pm »
But yes if you want to argue on India versus Pakistan then I would not proceed not until you have a pinch of blind patriotism left in your nerves like typical nationalists since the both countries have committed atrocities even against their own people. From the racists BJP party responsible for the massacre of thoussands of muslims women and children in Gujrat to the Hindus blindly supporting BHP and voting MODI for government. All these collected under the shadow of one flag - Patriotism.

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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2014, 06:32:16 pm »
But yes if you want to argue on India versus Pakistan then I would not proceed not until you have a pinch of blind patriotism left in your nerves like typical nationalists since the both countries have committed atrocities even against their own people. From the racists BJP party responsible for the massacre of thoussands of muslims women and children in Gujrat to the Hindus blindly supporting BHP and voting MODI for government. All these collected under the shadow of one flag - Patriotism.
You cannot simply blam him brother.. :)
How come a killer became president and everybody started loving him?
There must be something right? He is a great personality here and many of the nearby countries are effected by him.. and just him..
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Re: 130 children killed in my city today. Should religion be banned?
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2014, 07:14:09 pm »
Off topic much?

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