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Re: GOD??
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2012, 12:52:34 pm »
In my opinion 'god' (as what you call it) is a higher (possibly advanced) form of life. I don't mean they are higher form of spiritual life, i mean they are a highly evolved living thing. Take a look at this. This is a book about that opinion. I apologize if this offend you.


Even though I am a Buddhist, I don't worship Buddha, I don't call him god. BUT i do respect him as a teacher, and i practice what he told. In my view, he is a teacher, who has found the truth and taught people about how to find the truth.


As Einstein once said "religion without science is blind and science without religion is lame "


Oh and by the way, did you guys know that he got the idea of the relativity theory from the 24 laws of universe that Buddha has said.
By this reason, I concluded that Buddhism is the highest level of science.


Anyway, it's your to decide... to believe it or not.
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Re: GOD??
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2012, 06:56:38 pm »
To me there is no God , there is one bad ignorance and one good that is knowledge , funny how priests have the illusion of knowledge . there is nothing purely good or purely bad , no prophet or satan , everything has a good and bad side its just about  which one is dominant .
I've been this kid who has seen a lot of loved ones die (accidental deaths) and everytime I was there crying in the operation theater and begging infront of god to save them but that faggot never listened to me ,eventually I realized I was talking to none but myself .







As Einstein once said "religion without science is blind and science without religion is lame "




have to be the only stupid thing einstein said ,science is EVERYTHING , its the truth no matter if you believe it or not , there is no point in saying its LAME without religion since they both just can't be together , science is YAN for the YIN of religion . remember my friend
'no ammount of beliefs can turn a lie into truth "

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Re: GOD??
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2012, 07:19:44 am »
@pllaybuoy if you think science is everything, then prove it to me by making yourself immortal. I accept that science is the highest achievement of mankind, but it IS NOT everything.
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Re: GOD??
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2012, 10:47:52 am »
@d4rkness: making myself immortal ? no science is not capable of doing that and who wants to live forever in this evil and nasty world ? not me atleast.
Science works for every logical thing and everything that exists and every thing that has impericial evidence and every law that is proved and every other thing has yet to be proved since its a rapidly progressing and never ending field .
Theism itself says god exists, he is IMMORTAL and is forever and will remain forever , and yet they ask us "how is universe there from forever  ,how did universe came into being from NOTHING", well better look into your own collars first , you are the believers and yet your question us  ? you can't question or the reason  for a NEGATIVE ;)



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Re: GOD??
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2012, 03:11:43 am »
I grew up in a bible belt town, had been going to church before I could even comprehend the words being preached.

Believed till I was in college, then I turned agnostic believing there was no good reason for my belief, that I wanted nothing to do with these fundamental hypocriticals who bashed gays and women getting pregnant before they were married but forgot to look themselves in the mirror and compare their lives to the standard they judged others by.


After a couple years of trying to bury my faith, I realized that I could not. For me God is love, he is the very essence of love and even though I found myself trying not to believe because of these people who I despised, my problem was I wasn't doing one of the greatest commandments that I believe in, and that was loving them even if every part of me wanted nothing to do with them.


I believe God transcends time being omnipresent and omnipotent, something that I know my mind cannot fully understand. If I had to speculate I would believe God to be a four-dimensional being which would be God like to us. It would appear all around us and yet we could only see its protrusions into our reality as 3 dimensional projections. We could not grasp such a thing. The being could manipulate time as we manipulate 3 dimensional things.


So to me, when someone says well who created God? That question to me doesn't make sense. Creation is in the scope of time, and if a being was outside of time, it isn't subject to time.


Science is a great thing, we learn more and more about the naturalistic world everyday. The aesthetics of this earth and universe do make me drawn to spirituality yes, but it's not why I believe. I was reading a C.S Lewis book (Mere Christianity) not too long ago and he put it in words that I could have not done.

"Creatures are not born with desires unless satisfaction for those desires exists. A baby feels hunger: well, there is such a thing as food. A duckling wants to swim: well, there is such a thing as water. Men feel sexual desire: well, there is such a thing as sex. If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world. If none of my earthly pleasures satisfy it, that does not prove that the universe is a fraud. Probably earthly pleasures were never meant to satisfy it, but only to arouse it, to suggest the real thing. If that is so, I must take care, on the one hand, never to despise, or to be unthankful for, these earthly blessings, and on the other, never to mistake them for the something else of which they are only a kind of copy, or echo, or mirage. I must keep alive in myself the desire for my true country, which I shall not find till after death; I must never let it get snowed under or turned aside; I must make it the main object of life to press on to that country and to help others to do the same.”

My belief is not something anyone could put under a microscope, nor would I expect it to be. I have desires that I have never been able to satisfy with this world. My earnest search for God is the one thing that satisfy this hunger, for me that's what I plan on striving for till my pawn is knocked off the chess board.
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Re: GOD??
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2012, 05:13:20 am »
Eclipses, Thunder, Storms, even rain is caused by .. GOD..?  RiGht guys?  :P   :P
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Re: GOD??
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2012, 11:35:04 am »
well better look into your own collars first , you are the believers and yet your question us  ? you can't question or the reason  for a NEGATIVE ;)
Did I mention i believe in GOD?? No, Never. What i think is that they are sort of advanced life form, not GOD; in plain words, it's alien. You get it? You should really check the hyperlink that i have given. It's really good book, and it Has no shit about believing in god.
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Re: GOD??
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2012, 02:22:13 pm »
Eclipses, Thunder, Storms, even rain is caused by .. GOD..?  RiGht guys?  :P   :P

Humans have been using "God" to describe naturalistic events they don't understand for a long time. This doesn't discredit a "God" existing. It simply shows us a little bit more about the underlining nature in humans, we are scared of the unknown, we wish to understand, etc. Believing in a deity doesn't stop ones strive to understand the unknown, the best we can do is create models to describe what we see, then see if a better model comes out that better describes the observation of the physical world, that's the beautiy of science - all about correction :).


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Re: GOD??
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2012, 02:54:50 pm »
Exactly... if one can explain everything... EVERYTHING... would there still be the need for a god?
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Re: GOD??
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2012, 04:48:13 pm »
Having a religious debate is retarded. Atheists are dicks to theists, theists try to deffend their religion and are rude to atheists, and both of them waste their time as no-one makes the other side accept his truth.
Just deal with the fact that everyone has a free will and has a right to have an opinion and there is not a single thing you can do about it.

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Re: GOD??
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2012, 07:03:03 pm »
Exactly... if one can explain everything... EVERYTHING... would there still be the need for a god?

 
 The question in itself is nonsensical. If everything can be explained, even the things science cannot touch right now (the metaphysical stuff) then either A. God is part of the explanation, or B. We live in a pure materialistic world where we can explain everything without the need for a deity. The answer is predicated on the explaination, and the explaination is predicated on the answer, we have neither, therefore it's just circle reasoning with no good answer.
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Re: GOD??
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2012, 05:07:08 pm »
If you believe, great.  If you don't, great.  Nothing other than disagreements will ever come from this thread.


This thread should be locked.

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Re: GOD??
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2012, 05:56:46 pm »


And let me tell you something, I do not believe in God, other then Google.

In order to have faith, it is blind, however for a lot of us we need to see, smell, feel to prove its real. There is a reason it's called blind faith. Now another thing is as F1.z3ro said, there is nothing but disagreeance that will happen in this thread. As long as people aren't preaching their religion to me I don't give a fuck believe in whatever you want to whether its Christianity, Muslim, Catholic, Buddhist, etc.
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Re: GOD??
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2012, 07:32:00 pm »
Look... Can you remove that kids pic?
it's not their fault.. Don't make fun of it, I see one of them at least a month... Is not nice to use their pic like this...
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Re: GOD??
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2012, 08:46:01 pm »
Look... Can you remove that kids pic?
it's not their fault.. Don't make fun of it, I see one of them at least a month... Is not nice to use their pic like this...

No
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