Fetus = Parazite?

[z3ro]

I see it as a parasite. The baby does not give back to the mother other than furthering generations. Which is not entirely a good thing, seeing how the world is over populated in the first place.

The baby causes physical harm and damage, back problems, malnutrition, sciatica, organ damage, etc... Plus, the mother can die giving birth because of all the ripping and blood loss.

Even after birth, you have post parden depression, and it leeching further resources. Sever sleep loss, stress levels unheard of, and money and time being sucked from the parents. All this to hopefully seeing the child successful in life. Which is only up to the child, so 18+ years could have been for nothing and you wasted half your life to a lost cause.

hhmmm.. put like that, I does make sense to call a baby a parasite..

[Huntondoom]

This Is not Intended onto any of the post already made

a better discription of a Parasite: a organism that is living off its host, without providing its host with something in return

Parasitism is a type of non mutual relationship between organisms of different species where one organism, the parasite, benefits at the expense of the other, the host.

Let me Explain this:
you got Bacteria that live in the roots of trees that provide the tree with materials and the tree provides the Bacteria materials They live in Harmonie, though the bacteria lives as a parasite in the tree roots, though the tree has benefits of this cooperation

like certain birds pick the tooth of hippos for food, and clean teeth for the hippos this is co-operation, Fetus and Parasite Live off their host without returning Usefull materials or are Damaging its host

A Fetus can destory its host because it drains the mother of minerals/vitamins and so on
just like a parasite can

[z3ro]

Symbiosis....

[p_2001]

Nope... While man is a parasite.. A fetus is not.

Babies are desired by mothers.. It is love and affection. While a baby does not give back material goods, it fulfills the emotional needs of parents.
Try asking people who cannot have kids...or those who lost theirs..
In no way is a baby a parasite.
There is more to life than simple material wants.

[Kulverstukas]

Babies are desired by mothers.. It is love and affection.

What if the baby was an accident and isn't wanted by the mother? then what? is it classified as a parasite then?

[Huntondoom]

Nope... While man is a parasite.. A fetus is not.

Babies are desired by mothers.. It is love and affection. While a baby does not give back material goods, it fulfills the emotional needs of parents.
Try asking people who cannot have kids...or those who lost theirs..
In no way is a baby a parasite.
There is more to life than simple material wants.

Looking From the ethic Human Said Then Yes, your right, but what if people wanted a tape worm?

also from a biology point of view: Its a parasite, where looking here from to different sides

[techb]

...but what if people wanted a tape worm?

I've know people that do like and want worms so they lose weight. Just throwing that out there.

[p_2001]

I've know people that do like and want worms so they lose weight. Just throwing that out there.

going off topic...but that is completely retarded of them.. What if the eggs reach brain?
They never heard of cyst?


Anyhow

A tapeworm is a parasite because it is unintentional and harmful...
The baby is half of mother...
The body fights the tapeworm..


The baby does not hide from the mother.. the baby forms BECAUSE the mothers body WANTED it...
The baby does not and cannot choose... So he is blameless and hence not a parasite.... He is a product formed because of the willingness of the mothers body.... The mother willingly accommodates the child... Her body goes through a lot of changes but none were forced... Those are a natural part of human bodily functions... A parasite is forced...

Man is not blameless... His actions are is own..thus grown up humans are parasites.

[Kulverstukas]

This is bullshit. Baby is a parasite by the direct definition. End of story!

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080127220331AAW0pFa

[namespace7]

This is bullshit. Baby is a parasite by the direct definition. End of story!

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080127220331AAW0pFa

Ok, if you want to go by such a vain and simplified definition. However, even by such definition, baby would only be a positive parasite, not a negative parasite like pests and insects and all kinds of nasty stuff that harms other things.

[Huntondoom]

going off topic...but that is completely retarded of them.. What if the eggs reach brain?
They never heard of cyst?


Anyhow

A tapeworm is a parasite because it is unintentional and harmful...
The baby is half of mother...
The body fights the tapeworm..


The baby does not hide from the mother.. the baby forms BECAUSE the mothers body WANTED it...
The baby does not and cannot choose... So he is blameless and hence not a parasite.... He is a product formed because of the willingness of the mothers body.... The mother willingly accommodates the child... Her body goes through a lot of changes but none were forced... Those are a natural part of human bodily functions... A parasite is forced...

Man is not blameless... His actions are is own..thus grown up humans are parasites.

There Are Chase Were THe body is dumping the baby, its called miscairage

Even so, Their are women who's body can take on the baby, but those that have body that will be their death, its a high stress on the Female body

Even so To EVERYONE

this Discussion has too many different points that are being drawn in like ethic's and yadyyadyyadya

the simple question was: "Has the book got the definition wrong?"

Yes the book has it wrong, however they might have had the same discussion as us

(annyway lock the thread :3)(Feels more like a flame war)

[lucid]

Ok seriously? I guess if this is a serious debate and we decide that fetuses are parasites than so are toddlers, teenagers, and twentysomething year old losers who still live at home. They live off their parents and are generally unwanted as well.

[Huntondoom]

Ok seriously? I guess if this is a serious debate and we decide that fetuses are parasites than so are toddlers, teenagers, and twentysomething year old losers who still live at home. They live off their parents and are generally unwanted as well.

Parasite live inside organismes the rest of the childhood is more like a leech

[-Polyphony-]

great question lol, I don't really know what I want to believe here, but it does seem that a fetus is helping the mother more than hurting lol I wouldn't call my soon to be born nephew a parasite but he is behaving like one

[Wizegamer]

as much as i enjoy the idea of a unborn baby being a parasite.

According to a biology book I was reading.
here's the definition of a parasite: "An animal or plant that lives in or on a host (another animal or hplant); it obtains nourishment from the host without benefiting or killing the host."  RIGHT?

by your original definition i think the text means Another animal, not like animals or plants. its host would be a different species all together. but by human nature  the definition of =

(in ancient Greece) a person who received free meals in return for amusing or impudent conversation, flattering remarks, etc.

---- aka a bum or suck up


and

a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.

---- children or elderly ...


aka dependents  might make a better example of how a infant is a parasite.