//Here is my two cents on the issue:
truecam is right. Even is he isn't the biggest info contributer, he still is someone who frequents the forum, and has been doing so for a while. He opinion is no less valid than mine, or anyone else's. (
Well, anyone being people who don't just solely come here to leech and fucking shitpost. Those who at least spend some time on the forum or IRC and genuinely cares about Evilzone. truecam obviously cares about Evilzone, which is why he's pointing it out.)
Evilzone is pretty much filled with worthless or outdated posts, although there are some posts that really shine through, those are few and far between. Of course, being less a contributer and more a leecher myself means I have no room to talk, but at least I try not to litter the forum with worthless threads and shitposts. I think Evilzone does indeed need more quality-control.
If you don't know, I'm not as active on the forum (
mainly because everything in my unreads are not interesting or I have nothing to say on them) but I spend my every living second (
kind of an exaggeration, but pretty close to home) of my life on the IRC. I've seen the idiots who come in the #register channel and attempt to find the code, with no ability to read or observe something new for them. Personally, when I registered on EZ, the topic of #register did not say anything about the !help command. Even now that it does, I still see the occasional (
not even occasional, by now it's a pretty prominent thing) half-brained fool that jumps in the channel and immediately starts either spamming someone with PMs or just asks straight up in the channel "how get register code"...with the grammatical prowess of a 5 year old.
One example of what happened earlier today:
<creed> !help
<register-bot> You are probably looking for the !code command ;)
<creed> lol
<puddi> come on
<puddi> you're close
<creed> this is harder than i imagined
<puddi> yup
<puddi> plenty of newbies struggle
<creed> oo ok
<puddi> so what do we do now
<creed> just tryen to figure it out
This isn't an isolated incident, either...this happens all the fucking time. The sad story is that eventually the idiot does manage to get the code. Every time. This isn't quality control, it's just sending an idiot into the IRC (
which, if they happen to speak in the main channel, I will end up greeting...and they never leave...). I need to be meaner, apparently.
<anton> !help
<register-bot> You are probably looking for the !code command ;)
<anton> !code
<anton> !code smth
<anton> !help
<register-bot> You are probably looking for the !code command ;)
<anton> !help code
<register-bot> You are probably looking for the !code command ;)
<anton> !code help
Sometimes it's not even THAT!! Holy fucking shit, just now:
<brant> * Youngboss (~rough_coi@3BF13127.3C97B6C.702FCAB3.IP) has joined
<Insanity> brant, don't be a fag
<brant> +w
<brant> /MOTD
<Insanity> Yup, I see, you're gonna be a fag. Damnit.
The stupidity makes me want to literally die. Not figuratively, literally. What happens to these idiots? Yeah, they get heckled, sure, but what matters is that they still make it into a position where they could become a gigantic nuisance. Once it was so bad to the point where Xires actually set the topic to:
So you want to register eh? | Try !help | If you ask others for the code you will be banned!! | THIS IS A TEST TO DETERMINE YOUR ABILITY TO EDUCATE YOURSELF ON THE SIMPLEST OF TASKS! IF YOU CANNOT PASS FOR YOURSELF, YOU DON'T BELONG HERE!I remember that day. Once the idiot who enraged Xires figured out how to get the code, that same idiot decided to help his many other idiot-lings on getting the code....which should be in clear violation of the rules...
"
If you ask others for the code you will be banned!!". I do not see that rule being enforced. I think in the whole time I've been on the IRC, I've seen one banned (in #register), and it wasn't even for asking people for the code. I think it was also at the same time MrJ was feeding his idiot-lings the code, but it's been a while and I can't remember well. Idiots usually come into #register, ask for the code, and having no repercussions they continue onwards with their idiotic tendencies. All I know is that Evilzone is not exactly doing well in what they purport.... "Quality/Quantity" is not something that has been accomplished in Evilzone. It's not impossible, either, there could definitely be some sort of quality-control. They could hash the code, give a little registration test, just...anything......please........
Plus, I'm not the only one who thinks this, clearly evident by not only truecam but the many others who I've seen talk about thier disgust for Evilzone's lack of an ability to weed out those with an IQ under 70.
I think the quality is pretty good. It s a no nonsese moderating system. I mean. If you ask something you can google, this will be said. The more 'difficult' things are discussed. For me, this is the only forum I like to follow. It may be bullshit or bad quality for you, but I already learned a lot with just reading the topics.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!! Hmmrmm, sorry about that, but...just...what the fuck is wrong with you?
Do you not know what quality means?
"It s a no nonsese moderating system"....uhuh...yeah...
https://evilzone.org/c-c/looking-to-learn-c/?topicseen
^ Retarded thread. Obvious reasons.
https://evilzone.org/hacking-and-security/password-security/?topicseen
^ Retarded thread. Obvious reasons.
https://evilzone.org/found-it-on-the-webs/security-conference-videos/?topicseen
^ Retarded thread. (For anyone who already has done their research....which is not many....)
https://evilzone.org/hacking-newbies/ping-of-death-works-or-not/?topicseen
^ Retarded thread. Person doesn't even know what he's talking about. (This one is a little harsh, I'll admit it.)I could go on...and these are only threads in my unreads. (
I check my unreads pretty much daily) The problem here is that a lot of the volume of EZ are these threads and posts. If you take them away, EZ will pretty much be left with a very minuscule amount of content.
If you think that the threads you see on EZ is difficult, then by all means continue to learn and grow here. Just don't hold the whole fucking forum back because you can't understand the difference between good quality and bad quality posts/threads.
No drastic action needs to be taken.
Poor or random posts are dealt with or not counted.
The karma system is good.
The test is suitable for all skill levels.
I think unless your head has been in the sand since you joined, you should know that drastic actions are being taken. We're "moving" to IPS.......
(
I put that in quotes because the due date has passed, and I'm not sure whether EZ is going to just give up on the whole project. That would be dispicable, seeing how much time and effort people like iTpHo3NiX and DarkVision spent on going through the mirror, and how Xires and Kulverstukas have spent so much money on it....which are only a couple things that would have gone to waste)
"Poor or random posts are dealt with or not counted." that isn't true at all. Take a look at your own post count, for instance. And, in case you need more prodding to understand, check out my reply to dimi.
I agree that the karma system is fine, that was never a problem nor was it presented as such. The karma system is not meant to signify someone who is smart or anything, it's just meant to signify how much people like you. You can be a genius with great posts, but hated with a low cookie count. Or, you could be the most retarded person to walk the Earth with a high cookie count. Cookies are not meant to be taken into consideration when you think about the validity of someone's posts or the such. Not sure why you brought them up, they did nothing to further your point or anyone else's.
"The test is suitable for all skill levels." The problem is that....THERE IS NO FUCKING TEST!!! Holy fucking shit, and what skill level are we trying to reach?! The ability to type: "!help" then read, then type: "!code" again?!? Holy fuck nut, you must be the most retarded person to walk planet Earth if you think that, THAT system is enough to keep out people who are completely worthless. It's ridiculous. You don't understand. You don't hang around all day watching all these stupid people getting the code, knowing in your heart that later that day there will be 5+ retarded shitposts or threads in your unreads....for each person....people who spam the damned boards on philosophical threads or on threads that are made up solely of what your favourite song or whatever is....just to hit the 20 post count. I find it very aggravating, and so meh.
/* I'm out of anger now, so yeah, I'll go back to my corner of brewing hatred. This all may seem like me being an asshole or just bitching, but if Evilzone continues being a cesspool of nonsense then eventually people will get tired of it's bullshit. :/ */
