Board restrictions to new members

[ptales]

@gray-fox: Just hope they won't return to being a leecher after getting 20 posts - maybe they'll discover that it's way more fun to be an actual member than just a leeching ghost.

[shikamaryu]

If that's what you call it... but if you never have anything to add, then maybe you shouldn't be here at all?

Ok, let me explain in other words, if someone has nothing to add, does that makes him unwanted? What if he does not have some thing useful now, but will give back once he learns. hmm as u said he shouldn't be here at all. Nice.

I'm sure you can find those books elsewhere

So why in hell u restrain them? I tend to get here because it's more like a catalog where security related books are grouped.

As the moderator of the ebook board, I would like to point out that providing ebooks the way we provide them is hard work. I need to clean shit useless crap contributions like "thank you" there, approve
books, generate the ebook index, not to mention the work people do to get hold of the books you download.
This means that we, moderators, users and other individuals, provide worthwhile content for a price nothing. We do it for free, and will continue to do so. Leechers are basically exploiting our blood, sweat and tears. They are like a locust swarm on the fields of our work. So we want something back. Not money, not
blowjobs, but 20 posts. Some more or less worthwhile contribution. An insanely small amount of it. Is it so much to ask? Now, if you disagree, feel free to point out why we should provide something so great for even
less. Or just suck my dick, not sure which.

Well I never said that eBooks in here are easy to post or are like everywhere else (as Kulverstukas ironically stated), in fact, this is the best source of itsec ebooks I found in the internet! And thats what made me wonder: such nice resources should be whether completely free, or require some "worthwhile" contribution. Yes something worthwhile that's really not as you stated it. So if I semi-spam with answers to javascript questions I get access to them? dammn what a bloody contribution. Yes thats the problem, that's so small. Like your .... I'll skip that part where you perform your role as a moderator and provoke users.

proxx

I perfectly agree with the fact that community needs contribution. What I tried to discuss with the previous hipsters is if people needs to contribute to get eBooks. And what if they need eBooks to contribute? Ahh the wise mamboo said they shouldn't be here after all. I see.

0E 800

No I don't want to introduce myself. I'm no one. I should get sociable to get knowledge? What an exciting internet we have nowadays..

Private tools, exploits, 0days.. that's how it should be. Private eBooks?! ok.
Embrace the community involvement and commitment. soo much quality posts coming out.
Cheers to another board getting too cocky to stay cool.


(And these useless grumbles of mine are counted as posts? This IS broken)

[TheWormKill]

Wrong, due to moderation, shit is cleaned out and won't give you access to the ebook board. From your other statements, I conclude that you
1. don't value our contribution, otherwise you wouldn't be so whiny about it,
2. obviously can't distinguish who provoked whom.
And yes, someone who does not contribute should not be here, see the articles quoted and posts above.

[Darkvision]

It is kinda funny i had a suggestion i wanted to post to this, for a specific reason and now considering some of the whining im not sure that i should. While i decide if i will proceed with that suggestion i first want to address the crying bitches in this topic.

This is a hacking and security forum. It is NOT some skiddy playground. This is the realm of the hacker, the kind of person who when hits a wall figures out how to go through, or around it. A MINOR and i mean MINOR wall gets imposed and your response is "gee i dont know how i could POSSIBLY come up with 20 posts before i continue being a leaching skiddy. ill go cry about it instead." It is pathetic, and you wont get sympathy from ANY of the contributors here.

I suppose i shouldnt take out my anger at the few morons in this thread at the rest of the potentially useful members so i will go ahead and give my suggestion.

For each section/sub section we should compile a (small) list of books for each that we find highly useful that can still be "free leached" for those just finding the forum and that maybe want to learn something, it will still keep the majority of the library away from pure leachers, but give true beginners a nice starting point. basically im thinking roughly 3 books per section to give some variety for each language subsection as well as some more general networking/hardware etc books to be provided in a stickied topic in each section for those just starting out.

Anyway @staff/vip -I havent said anything on this topic before now, because i had nothing to contribute, i like(ed) the idea(s) going on behind closed doors and had no viewpoint aside from "yes" to provide, hence why this is my first time speaking on it. Lets get some life in this mofo.

[iTpHo3NiX]

To interject my thoughts,

This came about with another issue as well, DCMA. These books can be found elsewhere however you get served no ads and direct download links and an upload service. You can contribute random thoughts and interesting finds on the web, you can ask Programming and Hacking questions, you can interact with the community. Just having an account to download books then complaining about it is retarded. Those of us look, find, and post, then those that moderate the eBook board. There are so many ways to contribute to get involved. If you don't like it, you can go to other eBook resources to get your fix. We're all about free knowledge and content, but with this we get activity, no DCMA, and several other benefits.

This site has been around for years and will continue to be. It's a great place to be and hope that you see that.

[0pt1musPr1m3]

LOL, I sure fucked myself on that one didn't I?

[Synfer]

LOL, I sure fucked myself on that one didn't I?

Kinda sure you did, close shot though, I bet everything was set for those new rules to come, they just waited you to delete your posts

[puddi]

brilliant, kulverstukas! idea should have been inplemented long ago. that'll keep those blood suckin leeches out.

[Blalaw_]

Very good idea. This will definitely increase posting and prevent leeching. I joined in August of 2014, but this is my first post, apparently your idea works.

[blazed]

A good idea indeed, I hope this makes it possible for users to become more active on the forum, personally I'll do my best to stick to the topics I know and if I get stuck somewhere, I will ask for help

[Greasabilly]

Ok, you got me. I love the ebook section and i think it's worth a lot more than 20 posts. I can live with it.

[gray]

I totally agree with this idea, especially since I'm lazy and most of the time I need a whip or a carrot on a stick to make me do something when I can always postpone it for later (which turns really fast into never).

Also, imo, there is nothing wrong with being elitist, as long as it's on a non-jerk scale. This term has a bad rep because of all the idiots using it to be rude to other people, but you can still demand quality or meeting certain criteria from your users / members etc. while remaining newbie friendly. 

Since the ebooks section is probably the most popular and sought after, I think it's only logical to restrict access to it, and 20 posts is almost nothing compared to the gain of being able to instantly download all those books, without going to shady shortened URLs or navigating through dozens of ads on a hundred different sites.

[mushinz]

Well after reading all of this I see that I was wrong and stand corrected.
I surely won't be leeching from now on.

[Blue]

Creative idea. Hopefully more HQ posts on the way from members.

[M777K]

Why the ebooks are missing for new members? What is the point in this. When i am not experienced i read books to learn new things. I am not posting because I do not know new stuff to share.

And This idea sucks. Hacking is about open source and free flow of information. And yes I can start writing posts about basic Nmap scanning or SQL Injection or other stuff that the internet is fond of, for gaining more post points, but I believe it will be better to leave your private forum for your private knowledge! Its better to start giving my money to the authors that wrote these books.

Staff Note: Don't double post